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Is CMC..  

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  1. 1. Is CMC the best white RB of all time?


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steven8989 Newbie

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On 5/26/2019 at 8:01 AM, TheRumGone said:

Statistically he is and he’s basically played half the seasons of those others. Obviously you can get into more nuanced things like what those guys meant to team, playoff wins, first downs etc. but Cam is on trajectory to be the best Black qb ever. Best dual threat ever if he keeps the pace he will surpass my favorite qb of all time Steve young. You’ll start hearing people say that in commentary in a couple of years IF the shoulder is ok. 

Guess what Cam won't sniff HOF unless he wins a SB. I don't care what kind of qb he is!

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rayzor Grand Master

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14 hours ago, steven8989 said:

Guess what Cam won't sniff HOF unless he wins a SB. I don't care what kind of qb he is!

Here's part of the reason why he will be in the HoF regardless of superbowl ring. (and yes, I just copied and pasted from wiki, but this list is and will be growing).

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Rookie records[edit]

  • Most combined touchdowns for a rookie in NFL history (35)
  • Most combined yards for a rookie in NFL history (4,784)
  • First rookie to throw over 4,000 passing yards
  • First and only rookie to pass for more than 4,000 yards and rush for more than 700 yards
  • First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[203]

Records and achievements[edit]

  • Most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in NFL history (58)[204]
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in his first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[205]
  • Most games in NFL history with a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown (32)[206]
  • Most player of the week awards in a single season (5) tied with Tom Brady[207]
  • First player in NFL history and most games with at least 250 passing yards, 100 rushing yards, 1 passing touchdown, and 1 rushing touchdown in a single game (2)[208]
  • Most games in single season with at least one passing touchdown and one rushing touchdown (8)[209]
  • Only player in NFL history with at least 30 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in same season[210]
  • Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers[211]
  • Most combined yards in a player's first five seasons (21,560)[212]
  • First quarterback and fifth player in NFL history with at least 500 rushing yards, 5 rushing touchdowns, and 4.8 yards a carry in 5 consecutive NFL seasons[213]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to win both NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year and NFL MVP at some point in his career.
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals[214]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[203]
  • Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals, vs. Green Bay Packers, and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars)[215]
  • Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games[214]
  • First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games[216]
  • Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing touchdowns in first two seasons[217]
  • First player to have 30 passing touchdowns and 20 rushing touchdowns in first two seasons[218]
  • First player in NFL history with 50 passing touchdowns and 25 rushing touchdowns in his first three seasons[219]
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ passing yards and 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season[220]
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ passing yards and 500+ rushing yards in a season[221]
  • First quarterback in NFL history with 100+ pass touchdowns and 25+ rush touchdowns in first five seasons[148]
  • First quarterback in NFL history with multiple seasons of 20+ passing touchdowns and 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season[222]
  • First player in NFL history with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons[223]
  • First player in NFL history with 10,000 passing yards and 2,000 rushing yards in his first four seasons[224]
  • First player in NFL history to have at least 3,000 passing yards and 500 rushing yards in five consecutive seasons[225]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to rush for 100+ yards and pass for 300+ yards with 5 touchdowns in a single game (December 20, 2015).[226]
  • First player in NFL history with 100+ rush yards and 5 pass touchdowns in a single game[225]
  • First player with 3,500 passing yards, 20 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in a single season (2011, 2015)[213]
  • First quarterback in NFL history with 10+ rushing touchdowns in multiple NFL seasons (2011, 2015)[227]
  • Fifth quarterback in NFL history with 3+ games with 5+ touchdown passes in a season[225]
  • Fourth quarterback to win 17+ straight regular season starts in the Super Bowl era[225]
  • Most games in NFL history with at least 200 passing yards and 80 rushing yards with multiple touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown (4 games)[228]
  • Third quarterback in NFL history with 2+ passing touchdowns and 1+ rushing touchdown[229]
  • Second quarterback in NFL history with 3+ passing touchdowns and 1+ rushing touchdown[230]
  • Most touchdown passes from a player from Auburn[231]
  • First starting quarterback to win the NFC South in consecutive seasons (2013–2015)
  • Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass touchdowns in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning ('99)[232]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to earn a comeback victory when trailing in overtime[143]
  • Third quarterback in NFL history to pass for over 3,000 yards in his first five seasons[233]
  • Second most 5+ touchdown games in a single season (3)[234]
  • Second quarterback with 300+ passing yards and 100+ rushing yards in a single game[235]
  • First player in Super Bowl era to pass for 300 yards and rush for multiple touchdowns in a playoff game[236]
  • Most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in his first four seasons (33)[237]

Point is, aside from the ring (yet) he's accomplished more and has set and broken quite a few records that won't be touched for a long time. People lump him into the "running QB" genre with Vick, etc. but he's always been so much more than that. he is a one of a kind player who has performed as such and that is why he will be quick to get in. he has been handicapped with poor coaching, bad WRs, and a porous OL for years, but the dude keeps churning out yards, first downs, and TDs. one way or another, he keeps getting it done. say what you want about his pressers, his vids, his wardrobe choices, and all the other off-field stuff....there has never been a player on the field like him.

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21 hours ago, Pantha-kun said:

I think he either needs a Lombardi, or he needs to play well into his late 30s with good stats. 

 

MVP awards worth at least two Lombardis. Cam holds too many significant records to be kept out of the Hall even if he died tomorrow. Rookie season and his rushing record in particular can’t be ignored.

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1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

MVP awards worth at least two Lombardis. Cam holds too many significant records to be kept out of the Hall even if he died tomorrow. Rookie season and his rushing record in particular can’t be ignored.

No way he has to win a SB. 

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On 5/28/2019 at 12:34 PM, rayzor said:

Here's part of the reason why he will be in the HoF regardless of superbowl ring. (and yes, I just copied and pasted from wiki, but this list is and will be growing).

Point is, aside from the ring (yet) he's accomplished more and has set and broken quite a few records that won't be touched for a long time. People lump him into the "running QB" genre with Vick, etc. but he's always been so much more than that. he is a one of a kind player who has performed as such and that is why he will be quick to get in. he has been handicapped with poor coaching, bad WRs, and a porous OL for years, but the dude keeps churning out yards, first downs, and TDs. one way or another, he keeps getting it done. say what you want about his pressers, his vids, his wardrobe choices, and all the other off-field stuff....there has never been a player on the field like him.

I don't think all of that is enough to get in the HoF if he never played another down.   

Hes played 8 seasons, about 33,000 combined passing and rushing yards, and 240 combined passing and rushing touchdowns. 

That's not that impressive by itself but its extremely good progress if he has a decently long career. If he can get to 60,000 combined yards and 500 total TDs thats more than enough, but he'd have to either play 8-10 more years or have a few more 2015-esque seasons. 

 

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