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84% of Bucs fans say Winston is a bust.

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Pejorative Miscreant Grand Master

Pejorative Miscreant

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6 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Winston has a .382 winning % as a starter (21-34 in 55 games started).

Locker has a .391 winning % (9-14 record in 23 games started).

How can a player with a lower winning percentage than a player that is considered to be a bust, also not be a bust themself?

Winston is a bust himself, but unlike the Chargers, Titans, and Raiders, the Buccaneers refuse to cut their losses and admit they whiffed on the #1 overall pick and will ride him out through his 5th year.

What’s even more disheartening is they’re paying him $20,922,000 this year. Pay me $20.9M and I can throw two pick-6’s every game just like Winston did Sunday. I might even throw in a dance afterward to add a little razzle dazzle and let them get their money’s worth.

I for one like Winston in TB a lot and hope he is with the Bucs for the next decade.  

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6 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Winston has a .382 winning % as a starter (21-34 in 55 games started).

Locker has a .391 winning % (9-14 record in 23 games started).

How can a player with a lower winning percentage than a player that is considered to be a bust, also not be a bust themself?

Winston is a bust himself, but unlike the Chargers, Titans, and Raiders, the Buccaneers refuse to cut their losses and admit they whiffed on the #1 overall pick and will ride him out through his 5th year.

What’s even more disheartening is they’re paying him $20,922,000 this year. Pay me $20.9M and I can throw two pick-6’s every game just like Winston did Sunday. I might even throw in a dance afterward to add a little razzle dazzle and let them get their money’s worth.

Bucs won  2 games the  year before Winston got there, Lovie Smith was his HC to start with, there are other reasons besides Winston's play for a .400 winning percentage.

Winston has the same problem that many young QBs have when drafted by a bad team- he never gets to spend time in the same system. He's on his 3rd HC/offense in 4 years. Makes a huge difference.

Not saying that he was ever going to be elite, but he might have been a solid QB if put in one system and allowed to really learn it.

 

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16 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Winston has a .382 winning % as a starter (21-34 in 55 games started).

Locker has a .391 winning % (9-14 record in 23 games started).

How can a player with a lower winning percentage than a player that is considered to be a bust, also not be a bust themself?

Winston is a bust himself, but unlike the Chargers, Titans, and Raiders, the Buccaneers refuse to cut their losses and admit they whiffed on the #1 overall pick and will ride him out through his 5th year.

What’s even more disheartening is they’re paying him $20,922,000 this year. Pay me $20.9M and I can throw two pick-6’s every game just like Winston did Sunday. I might even throw in a dance afterward to add a little razzle dazzle and let them get their money’s worth.

I hate people who use win rate as a individual indicator. Winning is a team statistic

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2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Also I'm not entirely sure it's his fault on the field. The bucs ownership and coaching has been a mess..

The Bucs organization is an unholy mess from the top down and has been for a long, long time.

As long as the Glazers continue to own it, nobody should hold their breath on that changing.

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33 minutes ago, Chairman Wow said:

Career passer rating:

Winston: 87.0

Cam Newton: 86.3

Realistically, Cam Newton is Jameis Winston with better running ability. 

If Cam is done as a runner, this team is in deep poo.

Statistically Cam is a very slightly better passer than Winston....very slightly.

Now Cam has had better defenses, ownership, and coaching than Winston.  Winston has had better WR's.

 

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