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Glazer sez Cam is "refusing to run".


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1 minute ago, SBiii said:

The NFL Injury Report rules are WAY more nuanced than this.

There are widespread assertions that Cam is clearly injured to the point people are saying he should take a year off to get right --- if this were remotely true Cam would be listed on both the Practice and Game Status injury reports.

Read here if you care to:  https://operations.nfl.com/media/2683/2017-nfl-injury-report-policy.pdf

 

I’m well aware of the injury report rules and I’m also well aware they don’t put every injury on it if the player is practicing fully.

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Just now, rippadonn said:

We'll see how the salary cap goes as well as Daks contract.

Is Zeke their best player? Maybe. Most necessary is Dak.

The quarterback is the most important player on every team, but he's not always the best. Heck, there aren't that many elite quarterbacks in the league right now.

And no, Newton isn't the best player on the Panthers right now. It's McCaffrey. Newton is going to need to significantly improve his performance this year to be in that discussion.

The Bucs believed that if they stopped McCaffrey, Newton couldn't beat them. They were right.

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It could be that Cam is hesitant to run the ball because he is concerned about his foot. Now, that's not to say he is injured enough to be on the injury list, but could be enough for him to nurse it until he has more confidence in it. 

He's always had a problem with some throws and I would think a combination of past shoulder injuries and maybe his foot still in the back of his mind are contributors. Is Cam really stepping into his throws? Not often. 

Of course, having this OLine can't help, right now.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The quarterback is the most important player on every team, but he's not always the best. Heck, there aren't that many elite quarterbacks in the league right now.

And no, Newton isn't the best player on the Panthers right now. It's McCaffrey. Newton is going to need to significantly improve his performance this year to be in that discussion.

The Bucs believed that if they stopped McCaffrey, Newton couldn't beat them. They were right.

Agree to disagree on McCaffrey being the best he was stymied by the Bucs. Shut down. Another reason he's not better than Luke or Cam. Tehe

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Cam is always better when he breaks out a good run early.. haven’t seen that for a long time..

 

 CMC is a great player, but that Buc was draped all over his right side, ball was in his left hand, no reason he couldnt have stretched over the line & cleared all questions...

 

how is do you deny Cam from gaining that half-yard? So many other options to get that considering how the choice worked out.... just a bad play call when it mattered, and I’m the furthest from knowing what I’m talking about when it matters.......

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1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

Agree to disagree on McCaffrey being the best he was stymied by the Bucs. Shut down. Another reason he's not better than Luke or Cam. Tehe

Actually, his being shut down against Tampa proves the opposite point.

The Bucs could afford to focus their defense on McCaffrey specifically because they believed nobody else could beat them, including Newton. And their strategy worked.

It shouldn't surprise anybody if we see future opponents also focus on McCaffrey and dare Newton to beat them.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually, his being shut down against Tampa proves the opposite point.

The Bucs could afford to focus their defense on McCaffrey specifically because they believed nobody else could beat them, including Newton. And their strategy worked.

It shouldn't surprise anybody if we see future opponents also focus on McCaffrey and dare Newton to beat them.

Yup, the ultimate team sport. Neither guy is capable without a functioning Online.

Much love Scot. Night night

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Not caring about who the "best" player is, but I've seen teams win Super Bowls without the best player being the QB, and arguably being the RB. 

Dak was the Cowboys best player for the last two weeks.

One thing about it, you're not going anywhere if your QB sucks. Of course Pittsburgh would probably be a markedly better team with Bell. 

It's a team game where the best player is not static, but dynamic and will sometimes vary from week to week. Your QB has to be competent though. 

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1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

Yup, the ultimate team sport. Neither guy is capable without a functioning Online.

Much love Scot. Night night

We've got a fair share of issues, sadly. And what makes it worse is both of our first two opponents gave us plenty of opportunities to get back in the game.

I don't buy into the notion that Newton is refusing to run. I do wonder if he can't.

Lord knows he hasn't so far this season (negative yardage, even) and the one big attempt he made last game was definitely not up to his usual standard.

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21 minutes ago, Bartin said:

I’m well aware of the injury report rules and I’m also well aware they don’t put every injury on it if the player is practicing fully.

If Cam is subject to taking a year off to get right the team is obligated to put him on the Injury Report regardless of how much he is or is not practicing. 

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Just now, SBiii said:

If Cam is subject to taking a year off to get right the team is obligated to put him on the Injury Report regardless of how much he is or is not practicing. 

There's a pretty good argument to be made that taking this year off might prove to have been the best choice for him.

But there's no way in hell Rivera and Hurney were going to allow that.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's a pretty good argument to be made that taking this year off might prove to have been the best choice for him.

But there's no way in hell Rivera and Hurney were going to allow that.

FTR, I don't believe Cam taking a year off will make one bit of difference, but it is something I am hearing on the daytime sports talk shows as well as seeing written here and other places.

Cam is healthy. 

He either has a little case of the throwing yips (a logical affliction after all the f*cking around with his throwing "motion") which he might be able to overcome....

....or, he's just a 30yr old QB with a 54yr old arthritic shoulder.

If it's the latter, no amount of rest or additional surgeries will make any difference whatsoever.

One thing for sure, it's nut-cutting time....gonna be interesting to see what happens next few weeks.....for Cam, $100,000,000 PLUS hangs in the balance.

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