Person: Time to look out for #1

[LinvilleGorge]

I doubt that Cam needs to sit out the entire season, but he needs to sit long enough to get healthy.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Only three years, he was talking about throughout his career. 

I get that...just sayin'...

I remember once seeing Falcon fans  debating whether it was best to go with an injured Michael Vick or a healthy Chris Chandler. Best response to that I saw was someone saying that there was no such thing as a healthy Chris Chandler.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I doubt that Cam needs to sit out the entire season, but he needs to sit long enough to get healthy.

Agreed, though even that could be long enough to put the playoffs out of reach.

I'm pretty certain the whole "sit for a year to get healthy" sentiment comes from the fact that it worked with Andrew Luck. Of course, those results didn't end up lasting beyond one year.

[rippadonn]

1 hour ago, joemac said:

I dont understand this then.....what is the reason for not using Cam in the run game at all if, according to Ron, he thought Cams foot was just fine on Thursday?  Hes alluding to there being some reason, just that its not the foot.  So, what was it then?  I think Ron is lying and hes backed himself into a corner now.

Marty admitted a couple days ago that Cams been transitioning into a pocket passer. He said that process started last year.

Like I've said Cam hurt his shoulder chasing a guy down after KB ran a lazy route and caused a INT. Cams throwing motion had nothing to do with it.

These damn "experts" couldn't rest until he was a less than special 6'5" statue. The best coach for Cam left long ago. Just imagine if that guy, who knew exactly how to use Cam, how to call games aggressively using Cams unique skill set was still around or if they found him and paid him to re-create or create an offense for your franchise QB.

People always judge and want to change what is unorthodox. Leave great alone!

[tiger7_88]

 

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"He was low about it.  You could tell because he wants to compete so badly," Rivera said.  "The first time I heard anything about his foot bother him was after the game."

What in the actual fug?

 

[Zeek]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm pretty certain the whole "sit for a year to get healthy" sentiment comes from the fact that it worked with Andrew Luck. Of course, those results didn't end up lasting beyond one year.

For me it's a situation where, if we're not going to make the playoffs, then we're better off getting a high draft pick than some middle round pick. If Cam can get healthy at the same time then it's all the better.

[Captain Obvious]

Cam won't let them use him to bail them out this year. He has put his foot down. Helping the team as always.

#FIREronandhurney

[Zeek]

13 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said:

put his foot down

Decent pun

[Mr. Scot]

19 minutes ago, Zeek said:

For me it's a situation where, if we're not going to make the playoffs, then we're better off getting a high draft pick than some middle round pick. If Cam can get healthy at the same time then it's all the better.

I'd agree, but neither of our jobs depend on the Panthers having a winning season this year.

The guys actually making the decision have some personal interests involved.

[Zeek]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd agree, but neither of our jobs depend on the Panthers having a winning season this year.

The guys actually making the decision have some personal interests involved.

True but they can't compel him to play if he's injured. It wouldn't be hard for him to get a doctor to side with his need for recovery. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Zeek said:

True but they can't compel him to play if he's injured. It wouldn't be hard for him to get a doctor to side with his need for recovery. 

They can if he's willing.

More than once, Newton has been trotted out to play at times when he really shouldn't have been. And a big part of that is because he wanted to.

Now ideally, a strong smart head coach says "no, you need to sit down" in that situation, but obviously that didn't happen.

His mentality is also part of the reason why I'm concerned right now. If a guy who never wants to leave the game tells you he might need to leave the game, it's bad.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

56 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Agreed, though even that could be long enough to put the playoffs out of reach.

I'm pretty certain the whole "sit for a year to get healthy" sentiment comes from the fact that it worked with Andrew Luck. Of course, those results didn't end up lasting beyond one year.

I just hope that we realize that we can't win with this version of Cam anyway so there's really no risk in sitting him until he's healthy. Take your lumps now and hope you can make it up on the back end because you're going to probably take those same lumps in the meantime anyway.

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They can if he's willing.

More than once, Newton has been trotted out to play at times when he really shouldn't have been. And a big part of that is because he wanted to.

Now ideally, a strong smart head coach says "no, you need to sit down" in that situation, but obviously that didn't happen.

His mentality is also part of the reason why I'm concerned right now. If a guy who never wants to leave the game tells you he might need to leave the game, it's bad.

 

I'm not sure if it's because the injury is that "bad" or if it's the fact that Cam has been playing hurt and compromised on the field for so long now being unable to do the things that he knows he can do when healthy that the game had simply stopped being fun for him. It's probably starting to really feel like a grind. Maybe he's just grown tired of that and realizes he needs to get right to make the game fun again. This foot situation is probably super frustrating for him. All the focus has been on getting that shoulder right for two years now and then he hurts his damn foot in a meaningless preseason game. That just sucks for all involved.

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I doubt that Cam needs to sit out the entire season, but he needs to sit long enough to get healthy.

Last year, after the wheels had come off the bus, I mentioned sitting Cam for this season.  Of course it would never happen as we don't have a forward thinking HC or GM...but...it may have been the right call.

At the very least it would give him time to get healthy, us time to completely rebuild the O Line, and give us the last season of his contract to evaluate the player and if we think that he can come back fully before having to sign him to a new contract.

At this point, we can still do that (shut him down for the season), and have the offseason, OTA's, and TC to evaluate him before having to pay or play him in 2020.