Getting rid of Cam would be an astronomical mistake

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rico6 said:

Definitely going to be an interesting offseason for sure. Do we go all in with Allen next season (especially pending on a postseason appearance) or go with the proven vet and former MVP chomping at the bit to return to form. 
 

Those aren't the only choices.

[lightsout]

5 minutes ago, 34yearoldsafety said:

Letting Cam go would be an open admittance that this Franchise has no clue what it is doing and hasn't for quite some time when it comes to these kinds of decisions.

 

 

And resigning a QB that hasn't played while healthy in over a year and a half (honestly, three full seasons because he was not 100% that late part 2017 and I feel confident in saying that) is what? An open admittance that a single player is held to a different standard than literally every other player on the team? Cam won't play the last year of his deal as a "prove it" year and I think that is obvious. He'd be stupid to, especially with his injuries. He's one more significant injury and surgery from being out of the league.

Going to a specialist, being told you don't need surgery, then coming home and going on IR doesn't sound like a guy who is "progressing through his rehab". It sounds like there is some serious conversation going on behind closed doors and that there is likely some friction somewhere involving the interested parties (coaching staff, Cam, training staff, front office).

[Peon Awesome]

Cutting Cam makes no sense to me. His $20 million cap hit is a pittance for a starting qb. That's basically how much people like Mike Glennon and Sam Bradford made a few years ago and the going rate for qbs continues to climb steadily. Cap space isn't a huge issue for next year and if we need to make a little room, there's plenty of safer ways to do so than cutting your franchise qb with zero compensation. I just don't get it. Let him play the year and see what you have. He's got a year to let his foot rest. You'd think he tore 9 ligaments in both knees the way people are talking about him. I could definitely see Cam bouncing back. And if he's still shaky, let him sign elsewhere and at least get a comp pick.

For those saying Cam won't play on his last year, what choice does he have? He's under contract and not likely to have a ton of suitors salivating to offer him a high guarantee multiyear contract after being injured for the better part of 2 years. The $20 million he's set to make next year is probably close to the guarantees he'd get in a new contract. He stands to make 3 times more by playing out the year and proving he's healthy and capable. Let's be real guys. 

[JARROD]

13 hours ago, Tbe said:

All good points, but the stats show cam is typically terrible when he doesn’t run 8+ times a game. He needs the running threat to open up big passing windows because he can’t make accurate throws consistently. There is no way the coaching staff will continue to let him run that much at his age and with his injury history. 

I really think Tepper is going to move on.

Completely absurd.

[JARROD]

Kyle Allen has beaten scrub teams with a lot of help.  He’s beaten zero prime time teams in prime time games and has zero comeback wins to his name.

He’s a serviceable guy at this point until he proves otherwise. If he folds up again versus Green Bay, Seattle and the Saints twice... everyone will turn on him— 

then who? Will Grier? Bawahahahhahahaha.

so we have to waste a ton to draft a guy. People will go nuts when we draft someone that turns out to be another turd like Sam Darnold, one of the Joshes, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Jameis Winston, Baker Mayfield and the bla bla bla goes on.

the best answer is Cam gets healthy. He will.

the funniest answer is when everyone here gets their wish and he goes to the Steelers or someone or worst,.. the Saints and gets a Super Bowl.  That while we trying to make Will Grier do his best Doug Flutie impersonation.

 

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Hey, do you guys remember Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the film? 

[Tbe]

13 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Completely absurd.

What exactly is absurd?

Newton wins 70.3 percent of the time with eight or more carries and 49.2 percent when he doesn’t.

Facts.

[JARROD]

Just now, Tbe said:

What exactly is absurd?

Newton wins 70.3 percent of the time with eight or more carries and 49.2 percent when he doesn’t.

Facts.

Your why is absurd.

Cam has been shown to be as accurate as anyone. He throws a lot of deep passes for one.

2,... we always had a terrible offensive line. It’s simple really, if the quarterback is a threat to run it puts the defense off.

numbers don’t lie but people lie about numbers all the time. Cherry pick stats, leave out the big picture or generally don’t know what the hell they are talking about.

ha

[SBiii]

13 hours ago, Wolfpack352 said:

(i)  I wonder.....just what if, we moved on and stumbled onto another great QB who has the skillset and mentality to lead Panthers to more wins, would it still be a mistake? 

(ii)  It has worked for other teams and i think you know who.

(i) What kind of odds do you think we can expect if employing this strategy?

(ii)  Specifically which teams are you referencing?

[rodeo]

Cam not being a Panther next year will be a franchise defining mistake for at least a generation.

[SBiii]

11 hours ago, Nesbro1 said:

Jake was a franchise QB.

You are 100% spot on.  Good onya mate.

[JARROD]

5 minutes ago, Tbe said:

What exactly is absurd?

Newton wins 70.3 percent of the time with eight or more carries and 49.2 percent when he doesn’t.

Facts.

Facts you leave out for example.

people Lie about numbers all the time— and or most are just ignorant from the biases

just an example. Cam was actually very accurate. Offensive line, receiving corps her had to carry, scheme with a lot of deep passes— accuracy and completion percentage are not the same thing.

ha

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.derp/platform/amp/2017/9/20/16331492/what-they-get-wrong-about-the-nfl-carolina-panthers-quarterback-cam-newtons-accuracy-is-underrated

 

[SBiii]

12 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

If Cam is healthy this organization will rue the day, if they let him go.

You are 100% correct.

In addition, if Cam can get the foot/shoulder/noggin healthy the odds are 100% that Mr. Tepper keeps Cam on the payroll.

[Tbe]

9 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Facts you leave out for example.

people Lie about numbers all the time— and or most are just ignorant from the biases

just an example. Cam was actually very accurate. Offensive line, receiving corps her had to carry, scheme with a lot of deep passes— accuracy and completion percentage are not the same thing.

ha

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.derp/platform/amp/2017/9/20/16331492/what-they-get-wrong-about-the-nfl-carolina-panthers-quarterback-cam-newtons-accuracy-is-underrated

 

How is this lying about numbers? My source is espn and the Charlotte observer.

The point I’m making is Cam’s ability to move the ball downfield goes down considerably when he can’t run 8+ times a game. He’s never won consistently without that threat. He won’t have that threat going forward.