Sorenson: Tepper has a decision

[jackson113]

I would hope the Panthers get a new GM. Let him or her pick the new coach.

[CBDellinger]

1 hour ago, bull123 said:

sorensen wants kap and doesnt like allen...just like all the media...so of course he trashes rivera

Tom is one of the best writers to ever cover the clt market.  

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Is their a source for this?  I couldn't find a straight up comparison of only our first year to present.  Just a selection of snap shots based on the article.

Panthers are just barely under .500 in franchise history.  

From 2010-2018 Carolina is number 14 in the NFL wins

10th in Playoff wins from 1996+. 11th in Playoff games 1996+.

Are all those stats showing to be a long term mediocre team?  Yes.

Does it need to change? Yes.

Is it a bottom 30% team?  Doesn't look like it.

Can't find anything that goes that far back, but this site list records since 2003. 

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trends/win_trends/?range=yearly_since_2003

We are 12th, behind New Orleans, ahead of Tampa and Atlanta.  We are also 10th in winning percentage among all teams since Ron took over.  

[BurnHurnBurn]

after a decade the data is set.  No more input needed.  Rivera must go.

 

[Pimpdaddy]

when ur drunker than 700 indians... like i am now...you get a perspective....on ronald...and ***** hurney.. their deciston to entrust the offence to a 23 year old with no expericene and a shty line is grounds to fire a mufker....stains bucked up with Teddy... then to bring in a hyprid 3-4 D that makes Luke look totaly invisible is another indictment...when you claim to be a defensive mind...damn right Tep has a decision... and its a ***** no brainer...  oh...not to mention 2 major blowouts in the last 2 years...thats never happened...gtfo

[NanuqoftheNorth]

John Fox's best years weren't with the Carolina Panthers, they were with the Denver Broncos.

Rivera's best years weren't with Hurney, they were with Gettleman.

While neither of these coaches is the best I could hope for, they aren't terrible.

Is it possible that the biggest problem with the Carolina Panthers isn't on the sidelines every Sunday?

[MHS831]

I sorta disagree about "losing the team."  Yes, there has been no rebellion, and yes, players genuinely like RR because he is one of them at heart--a former player.

But are players giving their all?  Are the assistant coaches?  I do not know, but there are times I want to see an assistant surrounded by players and a player getting the team fired up.  Who does that on this team?

I know it happens some, but is it consistent and genuine.

When I was in grad school I worked at the Observer at night--I liked Sorenson--he is a deep thinker and a genuine and humble sports scholar.  I called him about 5 or 6 years ago and talked about RR getting fired.  I said, "Ron Rivera is undefeated in games where his job is on the line," and he laughed and asked me if he could use that line.  The bottom line? Does RR coach that way now?  When cameras caught him smiling (looking very relaxed) vs. Atlanta Sunday, I felt that he did care.  I realize that is not fair, but it bothered me.

[Pimpdaddy]

3 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

John Fox's best years weren't with the Carolina Panthers, they were with the Denver Broncos.

Rivera's best years weren't with Hurney, they were with Gettleman.

While neither of these coaches are the best I could hope for, they aren't terrible.

Is it possible that the biggest problem with Carolina Panthers isn't on the sidelines every Sunday?

ok...Jerry... i guess...but i dont like ronald anymore...never liked hurney because he was alway jerrys patsy...bye freak bitches...

 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

3 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

ok...Jerry... i guess...but i dont like ronald anymore...never liked hurney because he was alway jerrys patsy...bye freak bitches...

If Tepper decides he wants a new GM, chances are Ron will be heading out the door too.

I don't see Ron lucky enough to survive another change in management.

[Pimpdaddy]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I sorta disagree about "losing the team."  Yes, there has been no rebellion, and yes, players genuinely like RR because he is one of them at heart--a former player.

But are players giving their all?  Are the assistant coaches?  I do not know, but there are times I want to see an assistant surrounded by players and a player getting the team fired up.  Who does that on this team?

I know it happens some, but is it consistent and genuine.

When I was in grad school I worked at the Observer at night--I liked Sorenson--he is a deep thinker and a genuine and humble sports scholar.  I called him about 5 or 6 years ago and talked about RR getting fired.  I said, "Ron Rivera is undefeated in games where his job is on the line," and he laughed and asked me if he could use that line.  The bottom line? Does RR coach that way now?  When cameras caught him smiling (looking very relaxed) vs. Atlanta Sunday, I felt that he did care.  I realize that is not fair, but it bothered me.

...that dumbass lost the team when he reprimanded and benched Cam for dress code violation in public...been down hill ever since...

[SBiii]

4 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...that dumbass lost the team when he reprimanded and benched Cam for dress code violation in public...been down hill ever since...

#FakeNews

If anything the other players applauded Ol' Rowboat for holding Superman to the same standards as every player is held to.

Cam would have been MUCH better off if The Rower had done so from day-1...

[Pimpdaddy]

4 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

If Tepper decides he wants a new GM, chances are Ron will be heading out the door too.

I don't see Ron lucky enough to survive another change in management.

...if tep decides to keep the gm...then that will tell me a lot about him...

[SBiii]

Sorenson is a dolt.  His take on Clifford is completely off base.  Ditto Rowboat.

You know in a radio interview he referred to a bunch of you as "Cam sycophants"....

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...if tep decides to keep the gm...then that will tell me a lot about him...

And none of it is good.