Rapoport: Rivera the hottest coaching candidate

[rayzor]

2 minutes ago, Dilla said:

I'm pretty sure the same people saying the Panthers will regret firing Ron are the same people that said we would regret firing Fox and were Fox defenders until very end. Just content with mediocrity.

If the Panthers flop, I won't change my tune about Rivera running his course. It won't be "We should have kept Rivera", it will be "We hired the wrong replacement ".

Agreed. Moving on was absolutely the best decision. If we hire the wrong guy again (and yes, i mean to say Rivera was the wrong coach to try and build a consistent winner with), hopefully we'll recognize it earlier and try again. 

Trying and failing is better than settling.

[thefuzz]

Just now, rayzor said:

Agreed. Moving on was absolutely the best decision. If we hire the wrong guy again (and yes, i mean to say Rivera was the wrong coach to try and build a consistent winner with), hopefully we'll recognize it earlier and try again. 

Trying and failing is better than settling.

Rivera is a good coach to hire, he was not a good coach to pair with Marty Hurney and Cam Newton.

[t96]

58 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, you telling me a team like Cleveland wouldn't be hitting a home run to land Rivera? That would be a great hire for them.  

 

I could honestly see him going back to Chicago as DC and then if their offense continues to struggle under Nagy him becoming the HC sooner rather than later.

[Zeek]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Also talks a little about Cam Newton. Considers a trade the most likely option and says that Newton is getting healthy for "somebody".

I hate the insistence on those two being linked. Anyone who takes Ron must be okay with being average to sub-par.

[rayzor]

Just now, Zeek said:

I hate the insistence on those two being linked. Anyone who takes Ron must be okay with being average to sub-par.

For a team already in the toilet it would be an upgrade. Climbing up to mediocrity for the browns or the dolphins would be better than being a constant presence in the top 5 draft picks.

[Zeek]

3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

For a team already in the toilet it would be an upgrade. Climbing up to mediocrity for the browns or the dolphins would be better than being a constant presence in the top 5 draft picks.

We have the same record as the Browns FWIW.

[rayzor]

1 minute ago, Zeek said:

We have the same record as the Browns FWIW.

Yep. Awesome company to be with. 

This is a good year for them, though. For us...well...it was the new normal.

[Zeek]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Yep. Awesome company to be with. 

This is a good year for them, though. For us...well...it was the new normal.

Agreed, I'm saying there's no way they'd hire him when he was doing just as bad as what they already have. He likely doesn't need to coach anymore. If anything, go somewhere and be a coordinator. Ron has to go somewhere he can learn how the game has changed. 

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, Zeek said:

We have the same record as the Browns FWIW.

we have the same record for different reasons though.  

We aren't healthy and have some glaring holes on the roster.  Browns are poorly coached and have no leadership. 

 

[Zeek]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

we have the same record for different reasons though.  

We aren't healthy and have some glaring holes on the roster.  Browns are poorly coached and have no leadership. 

 

(5-7) is (5-7) mate.

[Sam Mills Fan]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Also talks a little about Cam Newton. Considers a trade the most likely option and says that Newton is getting healthy for "somebody".

Great. John Fox was too after he left. This means nothing as to whether he should have remained our coach or not.

[Doc Holiday]

35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So Cam was carrying him? Yeah, I agree.

Take Brady away from Bill and he isn’t half the genius everyone’s thinks he is. Good QB play is crucial in the NFL. You may be able to fake it for a season with an average QB, see Sean McVay with Goff. But there is no way to artificially create greatness. You either are or are not.

part of why I want us to still give Cam another chance. If not we will be chasing his replacement for years.

[rayzor]

12 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Ron has to go somewhere he can learn how the game has changed. 

And there lies the problem. Not sure that learning part would happen.

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, Zeek said:

(5-7) is (5-7) mate.

yes and no. 

I mean take the team Rivera took over.  All 2-14 teams aren't the same.  They all get to 2-14 different.  Rivera landed in a great spot.  It was basically, fix 1 position and BOOM....instant middle of the road.  Can't fix all 2-14 teams like that.