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Opinions: not a guaranteed starting QB for 2020


Jmac

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Opinions please... Spent a 3rd rnd pick that doesn't see the field all season. Play the undrafted QB instead all season. Never get the chance to see what your draft pick can do.

I understand that the Oline is an issue. You know that Allen is not NFL material and now have no idea what the draft pick can do.

Cam may or may not be here and nor healthy (totally unknown outcome.)

Allen is not a starter and barely a backup.

Grier totally unknown.

Go into 2020 season without a guaranteed starting QB.

What now?

 

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Just now, Jmac said:

Opinions please... Spent a 3rd rnd pick that doesn't see the field all season. Play the undrafted QB instead all season. Never get the chance to see what your draft pick can do.

I understand that the Oline is an issue. You know that Allen is not NFL material and now have no idea what the draft pick can do.

Cam may or may not be here and nor healthy (totally unknown outcome.)

Allen is not a starter and barely a backup.

Grier totally unknown.

Go into 2020 season without a guaranteed starting QB.

What now?

 

What do you want to accomplish by starting Grier? Just to say we are using him? Do you think he will turn our season around? Our team sucks and they want him to develop. At this point we will only hurt his development behind our line. Let him continue to grow and showcase what he has to our next head coach next offseason.

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1 minute ago, WarPanthers89 said:

What do you want to accomplish by starting Grier? Just to say we are using him? Do you think he will turn our season around? Our team sucks and they want him to develop. At this point we will only hurt his development behind our line. Let him continue to grow and showcase what he has to our next head coach next offseason.

So what do they do....sign a older retread vet if Cam is not here or healthy?  They can't start Allen.

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3 minutes ago, Jmac said:

So what do they do....sign a older retread vet if Cam is not here or healthy?  They can't start Allen.

Grier was drafted to be our long term backup. We will draft someone round 1 or sign a vet if we move on from Cam. Look at the upcoming QB free agents, a lot of current starters will be available. 
https://nfltraderumors.co/2020-nfl-free-agent-list/

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7 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

What do you want to accomplish by starting Grier? Just to say we are using him? Do you think he will turn our season around? Our team sucks and they want him to develop. At this point we will only hurt his development behind our line. Let him continue to grow and showcase what he has to our next head coach next offseason.

Not give any more snaps to a guy who is probably going to be cut!

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Just now, WarPanthers89 said:

Or they know we suck and that by starting him it will only hurt his development...



This. I can guarantee you that the majority of the "why aren't we seeing Grier" posters here don't know anything about it. It's not about "well we're not winning with Allen, so maybe starting a different QB will give us life". It's about "OL is trash, defense is trash, and we're just not very good". Putting in a rookie on the tail end of a lost season for the sake of "seeing what you have" is ignorant as hell IF you believe that he can play. This isn't a QB-desperate scenario. This is a rebuild starting point due to a staff that is just bad from top to bottom (save for MAYBE two coaches) and some pieces on the field that simply do not work.

Grier going out there will result in us losing games, same as Allen. The staff CARES about Grier's confidence at this point though. Grier getting starts now is either resulting in him losing confidence due to playing well and still losing or playing poorly and losing. Grier is not willing us to wins, and there MAY be a few games in this losing skid where Cam could have willed us to a win. Some people here are immortalizing Cam's best days and assuming these games are guaranteed wins with Cam. For sure, odds are better, but this team has a poo ton of issues and ignoring that so you can comment on the QB situation is lazy and dumb. Even with Cam, this is not a playoff team and you're blind if you don't see that.

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7 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Or they know we suck and that by starting him it will only hurt his development...

at this point I don't think 2 games is going to fug up his development.  he has had almost an entire season to sit and watch. IMO, we should get some idea of what he can do in a game.  UNLESS he is so bad that the offense itself would be so much worse with him, it wouldn't be worth it to evaluating other players

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