I still shake my head in wonder and awe

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, The Natural said:

Not going to do this with you again. I understand you have an infatuation  with Dave and will never budge on that. Neither are good. Period. 

I wouldn't get into that argument if I were you either.

Especially not after the game we just watched.

[The Natural]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I wouldn't get into that argument if I were you either.

Especially not after the game we just watched.

Sure thing, kid. 

[Toomers]

   Rivera is 51-29-1 and makes the playoffs 80% of the time, when someone besides Hurney sets up the team. 
 

 He was 25-33 with nothing close to a playoff appearance with Hurney. 
 

 Guess which ones still here...LOL. 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, beastson said:

Hindsight is 20 20 and hindsight says JR should have fired Rivera in 2013 after starting 1-3. He was clear then he wasn't the man. Yeah he went and made the playoffs 4 more times after, but firing him was inevitable he could never maximize the potential on the team. 

Jerry was ready to fire Rivera in 2012.

Hurney fell on the sword to save him.

[tiger7_88]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nah.

Gettleman took over a lousy team coached by a lousy coach when they were over the cap due to Hurney's mismanagement and had us in the Super Bowl within three years.

Hurney took over a playoff quality team and ran them into the ground within two.

The argument over who was the better Panthers GM is over. Only an idiot wouldn't recognize that.

*pssst*... dude...

you're arguing with Mrs. Hurney.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Yeah let's re-litigate Hurney vs. Gettleman.  Sounds great.

[The Natural]

Just now, Toomers said:

   Rivera is 51-29-1 and makes the playoffs 80% of the time, when someone besides Hurney sets up the team. 
 

 He was 25-33 with nothing close to a playoff appearance with Hurney. 
 

 Guess which ones still here...LOL. 

Are we pretending that we didn't lose our starting QB for a majority of the past two seasons? How has Dave been doing in NY?

[bobowilson]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nah.

Gettleman took over a lousy team

 

What a lousy team Gettleman took over

The best QB in the NFL, a generational talent, who won league MVP

The best linebacker in a decade

12 Pro Bowlers

3-4 Hall of Famers

Horrible roster.  Poor Gettleman

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

*pssst*... dude...

you're arguing with Mrs. Hurney.

Valid point.

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Rivera is 51-29-1 and makes the playoffs 80% of the time, when someone besides Hurney sets up the team. 

 He was 25-33 with nothing close to a playoff appearance with Hurney. 

 Guess which ones still here...LOL. 

Just think, if not for a scandal, Jerry Richardson might still be making the decisions.

[The Natural]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

*pssst*... dude...

you're arguing with Mrs. Hurney.

You're the one who can't accept that they are both bad. I'm not a Hurney apologist. I've obviously struck a nerve with a key member of the Dave Brigade. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, bobowilson said:

What a lousy team Gettleman took over

The best QB in the NFL, a generational talent, who won league MVP

The best linebacker in a decade

12 Pro Bowlers

3-4 Hall of Famers

Horrible roster.  Poor Gettleman

What was our record in 2011 and 2012 again?

[The Natural]

1 minute ago, bobowilson said:

 

What a lousy team Gettleman took over

The best QB in the NFL, a generational talent, who won league MVP

The best linebacker in a decade

12 Pro Bowlers

3-4 Hall of Famers

Horrible roster.  Poor Gettleman

 

Don't throw logic into this! 

[raz]

gettleman, lol that guy sucks too.  we're arguing about 2 of the worst gm's in the league.

[bobowilson]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What was our record in 2011 and 2012 again?

What was Peyton Manning's record in his rookie season?

2-14?

Oh, ok, rookie qbs dont instantly go to the Super Bowl