Another year, another draft thread.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Profootballnetwork.com's 7-round mock draft

Trade Alert! The Carolina Panthers sent pick #7 to the Denver Broncos in exchange for picks #15 and #46 

#15) Carolina Panthers (via DEN): Javon Kinlaw, DT South Carolina
The Panthers traded back, acquired an additional second-round pick, and still get their guy. This offseason, the Panthers have lost Dontari Poe, Vernon Butler, and Gerald McCoy, so defensive tackle emerges as one of their biggest needs. The sky is the limit for Kinlaw, as he possesses superstar qualities and a tremendous athletic profile

#38) Carolina Panthers: A.J. Terrell, CB Clemson
A.J. Terrell was abused by LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase in the National Championship; however, before that debacle, he put out some quality tape. The Panthers have given themselves a potentially quality tandem with Terrell and Donte Jackson.

#46) Carolina Panthers (via DEN): Laviska Shenault Jr., WR Colorado
The Panthers acquired this pick from the Broncos in a first-round trade, and they use it to select the big-bodied receiver as a perfect complement to their smaller, speedier wideouts in D.J. Moore, Robby Anderson, and Curtis Samuel. If Laviska Shenault was healthy, he would be long gone. He is magical after the catch and should be able to enjoy solid production early in his career.

#69) Carolina Panthers: Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

#113) Carolina Panthers: James Lynch, DL, Baylor

#148) Carolina Panthers: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU

#152) Carolina Panthers: Brandon Jones, S, Texas

#184) Carolina Panthers: Markus Bailey, LB, Purdue

#221) Carolina Panthers: James Robinson, RB, Illinois State

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/7-round-nfl-mock-draft-2020/4/

 

[LinvilleGorge]

If we could turn #7 into Kinlaw and Shenault, yeah I'd be all about that.

[45catfan]

38 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Check Jordan Reid twitter. We met w Amik again via FaceTime

This is one year I think Marty doesn't show his hand.  With most Pro Days cancelled and the 30 visits scratched too, this may be a mystery even at #7.

Meetings on-line are keeping us in the dark too.  I'm sure not all cyber meetings are being leaked.  Many times it's the prospect leaking who they've spoken to.

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Profootballnetwork.com's 7-round mock draft

Trade Alert! The Carolina Panthers sent pick #7 to the Denver Broncos in exchange for picks #15 and #46 

#15) Carolina Panthers (via DEN): Javon Kinlaw, DT South Carolina
The Panthers traded back, acquired an additional second-round pick, and still get their guy. This offseason, the Panthers have lost Dontari Poe, Vernon Butler, and Gerald McCoy, so defensive tackle emerges as one of their biggest needs. The sky is the limit for Kinlaw, as he possesses superstar qualities and a tremendous athletic profile

#38) Carolina Panthers: A.J. Terrell, CB Clemson
A.J. Terrell was abused by LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase in the National Championship; however, before that debacle, he put out some quality tape. The Panthers have given themselves a potentially quality tandem with Terrell and Donte Jackson.

#46) Carolina Panthers (via DEN): Laviska Shenault Jr., WR Colorado
The Panthers acquired this pick from the Broncos in a first-round trade, and they use it to select the big-bodied receiver as a perfect complement to their smaller, speedier wideouts in D.J. Moore, Robby Anderson, and Curtis Samuel. If Laviska Shenault was healthy, he would be long gone. He is magical after the catch and should be able to enjoy solid production early in his career.

#69) Carolina Panthers: Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

#113) Carolina Panthers: James Lynch, DL, Baylor

#148) Carolina Panthers: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU

#152) Carolina Panthers: Brandon Jones, S, Texas

#184) Carolina Panthers: Markus Bailey, LB, Purdue

#221) Carolina Panthers: James Robinson, RB, Illinois State

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/7-round-nfl-mock-draft-2020/4/

 

Dude, if we seriously trade down and take a WR in rounds 2 or even 3, I will be livid. So, so many holes with that prime real estate to take a WR.  I agree CB, but that other pick?  Numerous ways you can go besides WR.  Do I even bother listing them?

[mrcompletely11]

22 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Profootballnetwork.com's 7-round mock draft

Trade Alert! The Carolina Panthers sent pick #7 to the Denver Broncos in exchange for picks #15 and #46 

#15) Carolina Panthers (via DEN): Javon Kinlaw, DT South Carolina
The Panthers traded back, acquired an additional second-round pick, and still get their guy. This offseason, the Panthers have lost Dontari Poe, Vernon Butler, and Gerald McCoy, so defensive tackle emerges as one of their biggest needs. The sky is the limit for Kinlaw, as he possesses superstar qualities and a tremendous athletic profile

#38) Carolina Panthers: A.J. Terrell, CB Clemson
A.J. Terrell was abused by LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase in the National Championship; however, before that debacle, he put out some quality tape. The Panthers have given themselves a potentially quality tandem with Terrell and Donte Jackson.

#46) Carolina Panthers (via DEN): Laviska Shenault Jr., WR Colorado
The Panthers acquired this pick from the Broncos in a first-round trade, and they use it to select the big-bodied receiver as a perfect complement to their smaller, speedier wideouts in D.J. Moore, Robby Anderson, and Curtis Samuel. If Laviska Shenault was healthy, he would be long gone. He is magical after the catch and should be able to enjoy solid production early in his career.

#69) Carolina Panthers: Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

#113) Carolina Panthers: James Lynch, DL, Baylor

#148) Carolina Panthers: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU

#152) Carolina Panthers: Brandon Jones, S, Texas

#184) Carolina Panthers: Markus Bailey, LB, Purdue

#221) Carolina Panthers: James Robinson, RB, Illinois State

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/7-round-nfl-mock-draft-2020/4/

 

No linemen?  Gtfo

[AU-panther]

23 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Dude, if we seriously trade down and take a WR in rounds 2 or even 3, I will be livid. So, so many holes with that prime real estate to take a WR.  I agree CB, but that other pick?  Numerous ways you can go besides WR.  Do I even bother listing them?

Why would you not take advantage of one of the best WR classes in a long time?  

I'll happily take a WR that has a very good chance of being a good pro over a so called "need" at another position that has a lot less chance of being a quality player.

People need to realize that that chance of being right on a pick is a lot lower then being wrong.  At that point you don't chase needs as much.

Even if you want to play the need game you can make the argument that WR is almost always a need.  At any give time you can have 4-5 on the field at a time. Other defenses can scheme to take away your best one.  They tend to be expensive in free agency.

You can't have too many good WRs and CBs on a team.  

 

[LinvilleGorge]

24 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Dude, if we seriously trade down and take a WR in rounds 2 or even 3, I will be livid. So, so many holes with that prime real estate to take a WR.  I agree CB, but that other pick?  Numerous ways you can go besides WR.  Do I even bother listing them?

We have holes all over the place. I'm all about taking advantages of the strengths of the draft and trying to take the best football players available. Forget about being competitive this coming season. Ain't gonna happen. Reaching all over the place to try to plug the biggest holes with draft bodies just doesn't make any sense to me. This has to be treated as a build for the future. And in terms of the future, Robby Anderson is only on a two year contract. Who knows what will happen with Samuel. We're going to see a lot of four and even five wide sets with Brady. The only proven stud we have is Moore. Taking a WR in the 2nd or 3rd is very defensible IMO.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Why would you not take advantage of one of the best WR classes in a long time?  

I'll happily take a WR that has a very good chance of being a good pro over a so called "need" at another position that has a lot less chance of being a quality player.

People need to realize that that chance of being right on a pick is a lot lower then being wrong.  At that point you don't chase needs as much.

Even if you want to play the need game you can make the argument that WR is almost always a need.  At any give time you can have 4-5 on the field at a time. Other defenses can scheme to take away your best one.  They tend to be expensive in free agency.

You can't have too many good WRs and CB on a team.  

 

So we are taking a WR in the draft, just for the sake it's deep?  It's not a need at another position, it's tons of needs across the entire roster.  Since WR is obviously closest thing we have to being remotely solidified, I'm sure the Panthers BB will have an OT, DT, DE, ILB, OLB, FS, SS, CB, OG or C that has similar value.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So we are taking a WR in the draft, just for the sake it's deep?  It's not a need at another position, it's tons of needs across the entire roster.  Since WR is obviously closest thing we have to being remotely solidified, I'm sure the Panthers BB will have an OT, DT, DE, ILB, OLB, FS, SS, CB, OG or C that has similar value.

Exactly. We have way too many needs to fill over the course of one off-season, so take the best prospects available. We have needs everywhere. Just take the best football players.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Exactly. We have way too many needs to fill over the course of one off-season, so take the best prospects available. We have needs everywhere. Just take the best football players.

All I'm saying is the further along in the draft you go, the spectrum of guys that begin grading out the same substantially increases.  Unless a stud WR has some crazy free fall with no explanation, I'm pretty sure there will be at the very least one guy (probably more) at other positions that we are scarcely thin at who grade out the same.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

All I'm saying is the further along in the draft you go, the spectrum of guys that begin grading out the same substantially increases.  Unless a stud WR has some crazy free fall with no explanation, I'm pretty sure there will be at the very least one guy (probably more) at other positions that we are scarcely thin at who grade out the same.

Anderson is only on a two year contract. Samuel is going into the final season of his rookie deal. It's very possible that within two years our WR corps looks entirely different. There's definite need there.

I just don't think any decisions need to be made under the guise of trying to be competitive next season. There's way too many holes for that to happen. We're going to be fielding a lot of typical would be camp fodder type guys no matter what.

[*FreeFua*]

51 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Dude, if we seriously trade down and take a WR in rounds 2 or even 3, I will be livid. So, so many holes with that prime real estate to take a WR.  I agree CB, but that other pick?  Numerous ways you can go besides WR.  Do I even bother listing them?

So you’d rather draft to fill positions for this upcoming season? That won’t backfire at all...

We aren’t planning to be or are we going to be competitive this year.

WR is a need. A lot bigger of a need than people realize. Given the WR’s in this class it’s possible that a WR is BPA as early as pick 7 and very possible that a WR is BPA at our 2nd round pick. 

We need talent everywhere. This is why trading down from 7 would be ideal if someone was willing to pay to move up. This draft is too deep not to.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Anderson is only on a two year contract. Samuel is going into the final season of his rookie deal. It's very possible that within two years our WR corps looks entirely different. There's definite need there.

I just don't think any decisions need to be made under the guise of trying to be competitive next season. There's way too many holes for that to happen. We're going to be fielding a lot of typical would be camp fodder type guys no matter what.

That is the nature of the League now.   Teams can only afford to lock up a few select cornerstones of the roster to these monster 4-5 year deals anymore.  The bulk of the rosters are made of draft picks from the past 2-3 drafts, those cornerstone players and a bunch of mid-to-low tier FAs on these 1-3 year deals.  So yeah, every year you will have rookie deals  and a plethora of these short-term FA deals expiring.

It's no different to say Okung, Miller, Whitehead, Kerr, DeValve or Smiths contract are all up in a year or two.  It's the nature of the business now.  That considered, wouldn't drafting guys to back-fill those positions make sense too?

Again, if the 'Aaron Rogers' of WRs fall to us in the 3rd round, I could understand it.  Otherwise, I think we go elsewhere.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

That is the nature of the League now.   Teams can only afford to lock up a few select cornerstones of the roster to these monster 4-5 year deals anymore.  The bulk of the rosters are made of draft picks from the past 2-3 drafts, those cornerstone players and a bunch of mid-to-low tier FAs on these 1-3 year deals.  So yeah, every year you will have rookie deals  and a plethora of these short-term FA deals expiring.

It's no different to say Okung, Miller, Whitehead, Kerr, DeValve or Smiths contract are all up in a year or two.  It's the nature of the business now.  That considered, wouldn't drafting guys to back-fill those positions make sense too?

Again, if the 'Aaron Rogers' of WRs fall to us in the 3rd round, I could understand it.  Otherwise, I think we go elsewhere.

Yes. You can honestly make an argument for seeking an upgrade at every position on the roster outside of starting RB. That's just the reality of our roster. I can definitively say I wouldn't take a RB in the first three rounds. Honestly, that's the only position that I would definitively say that about.