The market for Newton

[Inimicus]

15 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

I trust you understand the difference in finalizing tb and the potential in finalizing an agreement to sign cam to your club, just for starters I’m sure a team wants to have there dr’s evaluate cam and not just go off the physical he took in atl 

I was simply stating that he and his team could meet with any interested front office

You took that to breaking NFL rules

Now you want to make it about physicals

Cool

Here's a thread about a player our team had interest in and signed yesterday

 

[hepcat]

15 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

The team owed Cam NOTHING. Read it again ... NOTHING.

This is a business. He took us to one SB and lost. Popularity means zilch win it comes to wins and profits. This team will win games again.

You all act like he was the only thing holding the team together.

What, you wanted a farewell parade? A statue? A street named after him?

Your point is going to become more and more rational to posters on here, as the number of Cam Newton fanboys finally leave the fanbase. We're going to return to pre-Cam Newton levels of Panthers fans which might be for the best in the long run.

[Jeremy Igo]

Teams are being cautious. If he gets starting money it will be heavy on incentives. 

[thefuzz]

None, and I mean none of this would be happening if Cam had gotten surgery as soon as possible.

He would have been healthy enough to trade, he would have been healthy enough to work out, he would have been able to show teams that both the foot and the shoulder are healthy.

Instead, he waited, he used what little leverage he had, and it bit him in the ass.

I hate the way this was handled, but the writing has been on the wall for over a year, and ALL parties are to blame.

[raz]

14 hours ago, NcPsa10 said:

The Athletic’s Jourdan Rodrigue says Panthers GM Marty Hurney informed QB Cam Newton‘s camp a few days before the legal tampering period that they would be exploring a trade. 

After that, Newton’s camp requested more autonomy within the process to explore a trade, which the Panthers granted and which ultimately led to the wording and backlash of their announcement they had given Newton permission to seek a trade. 

so cam was informed by the team in a timely manner  before anything could legally be done.   that's what i figured.   the rest is just people with hurt feelings

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

None, and I mean none of this would be happening if Cam had gotten surgery as soon as possible.

He would have been healthy enough to trade, he would have been healthy enough to work out, he would have been able to show teams that both the foot and the shoulder are healthy.

Instead, he waited, he used what little leverage he had, and it bit him in the ass.

I hate the way this was handled, but the writing has been on the wall for over a year, and ALL parties are to blame.

A couple of different sources have suggested that the team has been frustrated with how Newton handled a lot of his injury issues.

True? Don't know, but the questions of why he postponed surgery have been raised before.

Mentioned previously that what I found confusing was how his visit with the foot specialist resulted in a recommendation that he not have surgery. Then a little while later, he's having surgery.

Still don't really know what to make of that.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, raz said:

so cam was informed by the team in a timely manner  before anything could legally be done.   that's what i figured.   the rest is just people with hurt feelings

We don't know that, but that is what's being reported, and I do believe this is what happened.

 

[raz]

4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

None, and I mean none of this would be happening if Cam had gotten surgery as soon as possible.

He would have been healthy enough to trade, he would have been healthy enough to work out, he would have been able to show teams that both the foot and the shoulder are healthy.

Instead, he waited, he used what little leverage he had, and it bit him in the ass.

I hate the way this was handled, but the writing has been on the wall for over a year, and ALL parties are to blame.

i don't think the org did anything wrong at all.    cam thought the late surgery would guarantee him a spot in all likelihood, and get him out of ota's and lots of training camp.   hopefully he has a rejuvenated career somewhere else - i really don't care though, and hopefully we can find someone a little more mature and responsible to play qb for us

[stbugs]

18 hours ago, Tbe said:

The NE athletic beat writer is saying the team has no interest in Cam.

And people are saying that BB has no interest in 2021 QBs. Brian Hoyer and Stidham? No interest in Cam? Don’t be shocked if they end up starting Hoyer and going for a QB next year. I’m not sure they are too good to tank. They couldn’t beat the Dolphins and lost to Tennessee at home with a bye.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

A couple of different sources have suggested that the team has been frustrated with how Newton handled a lot of his injury issues.

True? Don't know, but the questions of why he postponed surgery have been raised before.

Mentioned previously that what I found confusing was how his visit with the foot specialist resulted in a recommendation that he not have surgery. Then a little while later, he's having surgery.

Still don't really know what to make of that.

It's frustrated me before, but it's his body, his move.

I can't decide if this was a Ron and Marty thing, or just a Cam thing?  Did Ron know that he was going to be shitcanned and asked Cam to see if he could get healthy to make a late season push?  Did Cam just really not want to go under the knife?  Was it a misdiagnosis?

Either way, the timing that Cam and this virus chose, could not have been worse for him.

[raz]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A couple of different sources have suggested that the team has been frustrated with how Newton handled a lot of his injury issues.

True? Don't know, but the questions of why he postponed surgery have been raised before.

Mentioned previously that what I found confusing was how his visit with the foot specialist resulted in a recommendation that he not have surgery. Then a little while later, he's having surgery.

Still don't really know what to make of that.

in all honesty we have no idea what that surgeon told cam.  its illegal for the surgeon to tell us.  we only know what we were told, and i doubt that was the truth.   

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, raz said:

i don't think the org did anything wrong at all.    cam thought the late surgery would guarantee him a spot in all likelihood, and get him out of ota's and lots of training camp.   hopefully he has a rejuvenated career somewhere else - i really don't care though, and hopefully we can find someone a little more mature and responsible to play qb for us

It could have been handled better, there is no doubt in that, but the timing of everything is why it was so botched and seems amateurish.

I don't care about how mature my QB's are, I want to win football games....we could go to the wildcat fully and not carry a QB if that won games.

[thefuzz]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

And people are saying that BB has no interest in 2021 QBs. Brian Hoyer and Stidham? No interest in Cam? Don’t be shocked if they end up starting Hoyer and going for a QB next year. I’m not sure they are too good to tank. They couldn’t beat the Dolphins and lost to Tennessee at home with a bye.

Yea, BB saying that, is about the same as Rhule saying what he did about Cam....

Don't believe much you hear around the NFL, and believe nothing in March and April.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

It's frustrated me before, but it's his body, his move.

I can't decide if this was a Ron and Marty thing, or just a Cam thing?  Did Ron know that he was going to be shitcanned and asked Cam to see if he could get healthy to make a late season push?  Did Cam just really not want to go under the knife?  Was it a misdiagnosis?

Either way, the timing that Cam and this virus chose, could not have been worse for him.

Igo and others had previously indicated that Ron and Marty deferred to Newton an awful lot.

If so, I could see Tepper not liking those circumstances. I could also see Cam not liking that situation being changed.