In which I stay positive and the Panthers haters rage

[Call Me James]

The team doesn't look like a winner. 

Coaching staff, front office and ownership are all on the record saying they are trying to win this year.

We are 0-2. 

No amount of pooppouri is going to change that. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It'll be interesting to see how we do if CMC misses time. Per the sideline reporter, the Bucs' defenders straight up admitted that stopping #22 was pretty much their entire focus yesterday.

I mean, what other focus would there need to be? If you stop him, it's open season on a poor offensive line and questionable QB.

[kungfoodude]

I will say that screen pass INT was just fuging boneheaded. I understand that might have been a timing thing but you need to actually look at what you are throwing to before you fuging throw it. I'd expect to see that from Grier or Allen but not Bridgewater.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, what other focus would there need to be? If you stop him, it's open season on a poor offensive line and questionable QB.

That's what I mean. CMC's presence on the field might be the only thing floating this turd. It might get really ugly without him... or, maybe it gives Joe Brady a chance to show his chops. Don't get me wrong, my bet is on the former but it'll be interesting to watch none the less.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I will say that screen pass INT was just fuging boneheaded. I understand that might have been a timing thing but you need to actually look at what you are throwing to before you fuging throw it. I'd expect to see that from Grier or Allen but not Bridgewater.

Both the INTs were just plain terrible throws. The screen was there, Teddy just threw a wildly inaccurate rainbow ball. DJ had his man beat badly and if that ball is thrown to the inside instead of way behind him that very well may have bee a TD. At minimum it would've been a big gain.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's what I mean. CMC's presence on the field might be the only thing floating this turd. It might get really ugly without him... or, maybe it gives Joe Brady a chance to show his chops. Don't get me wrong, my bet is on the former but it'll be interesting to watch none the less.

I am still fuging perplexed by the decision to not utilize Davis to run the fuging ball. He was supposedly amazing in camp, he is clearly a great receiver....so why are we not using him more?? This makes no fuging sense to me. 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Both the INTs were just plain terrible throws. The screen was there, Teddy just threw a wildly inaccurate rainbow ball. DJ had his man beat badly and if that ball is thrown to the inside instead of way behind him that very well may have bee a TD. At minimum it would've been a big gain.

Yeah, he had a lot of Jake Delhomme-esque fluttering duck throws yesterday. Again, I attribute that to rushing his throws and being out of sorts due to constantly getting whacked. It's definitely something we talked about prior to the season, as his career sack rate was pretty concerning. This isn't the kind of OL you want to be behind if you are more likely to take sacks or more likely to wilt under constant pressure.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I am still fuging perplexed by the decision to not utilize Davis to run the fuging ball. He was supposedly amazing in camp, he is clearly a great receiver....so why are we not using him more?? This makes no fuging sense to me. 

Talk is one thing, but it's really hard to stop playing with a shiny new toy. We saw it last night when McD ran Cam on that final play despite everyone on Earth knowing exactly what was coming.

[NJPanthers12]

The pushing of everything is great let’s be positive narrative has been extremely weird. I don’t know if it’s better for business around here or what l, but it’s been very weird. I don’t remember this attitude when cam was still around. Either way it is absolutely ridiculous to think that way when Marty Hurney is still employed by this team. There is no future or possible positive outcome with him still employed. This has been proved over 2 decades.

can you imagine any other franchise allowing a cam newton to walk out the door on a 1 year contract and getting literally nothing in return? Then to make things worse they go out and sign an inferior quarterback for more money and longer term. If you’re trying to spin that as a positive then you have an agenda.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, he had a lot of Jake Delhomme-esque fluttering duck throws yesterday. Again, I attribute that to rushing his throws and being out of sorts due to constantly getting whacked. It's definitely something we talked about prior to the season, as his career sack rate was pretty concerning. This isn't the kind of OL you want to be behind if you are more likely to take sacks or more likely to wilt under constant pressure.

After watching TB and TB float dying ducks all over the field yesterday, it was almost shocking to the system watching Cam and Wilson throwing lasers last night.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, NJPanthers12 said:

The pushing of everything is great let’s be positive narrative has been extremely weird. I don’t know if it’s better for business around here or what l, but it’s been very weird. I don’t remember this attitude when cam was still around. Either way it is absolutely ridiculous to think that way when Marty Hurney is still employed by this team. There is no future or possible positive outcome with him still employed. This has been proved over 2 decades.

can you imagine any other franchise allowing a cam newton to walk out the door on a 1 year contract and getting literally nothing in return? Then to make things worse they go out and sign an inferior quarterback for more money and longer term. If you’re trying to spin that as a positive then you have an agenda.

I think the tendency toward pushing a positive narrative is just a personal decision by Igo to not dwell on the reality of being a dumpster fire. I completely understand it. We live in a society completely mired in negativity every single second of the day, so it's hard to enjoy football when you are having to look at a bowl of turds all the time.

As bad as it is, there are some bright spots. It makes sense for people to try and focus on that and just hope for the best. 

[mav1234]

18 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

major red flag for this staff if so. that's really poor player evaluation.

May be, and I think it's something we need to hold over them. Not that we have any power to influence an owner... and I do think this was his call ultimately. 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

After watching TB and TB float dying ducks all over the field yesterday, it was almost shocking to the system watching Cam and Wilson throwing lasers last night.

That was an epic battle of elite QB talent. It sucks to watch Cam play well and think that he could have been throwing to Anderson, Moore and Co. Damn. What could have been. 

[NJPanthers12]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the tendency toward pushing a positive narrative is just a personal decision by Igo to not dwell on the reality of being a dumpster fire. I completely understand it. We live in a society completely mired in negativity every single second of the day, so it's hard to enjoy football when you are having to look at a bowl of turds all the time.

As bad as it is, there are some bright spots. It makes sense for people to try and focus on that and just hope for the best. 

I see that but for cams entire tenure there were cam haters. There were people on these boards who use to argue Delhomme was a better QB than Cam. There were people last year saying Kyle Allen was better than cam. There has always been negativity around here, but there has never been this push where you were considered a panther hater. Just fascinating to me now that cam is gone Jeremy is pushing everything is rainbows and butterflies. 
 

I understand that there are some positives, but there is a proven track record here that there is nothing to be excited about as long as Marty hurney is employed.