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If a QB isn’t there at 8... Slater is your pick

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6 hours ago, panthers320 said:

It's crazy a guy is considered not a 1st round pick and maybe the 4th or 5th best tackle then sits out a year and suddenly jumps to a top 10 pick. The only thing I read about him is he doesn't have the measurables but he locked down Chase Young in 1 game. 

Thank you.  Leatherwood, Liam Eichenberg, and Christian Darrisaw all started longer.  All have resumes that include championship games and or awards.  Yet everyone is talking bout Slater.

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6 hours ago, Basbear said:

Im a pure sucker for long arms, 100%.  Its almost if Slater is like 32', Id take him completely off the board. Other teams feel the same, CBs is another. Frittereer came form a team that started that trend for CBs, it does make their 40 time less important since you cover more surface area. Im that way about every spot, including punter! Long arms >>>>> short arms. Its the Boxing in me...

I read there was a corner/safety out of Georgia named DJ Daniel who is 5'11 with 33 inch long arms.  Sorry not sorry I need my franchise left tackle to have vines for arms.  Back to DJ get him in a weight room and he will resemble the type  Fitterer liked when building the legion of boom.  On a tangent bout corners but Robert Rochell out of Central Arkansas fits that mode too. 79 inch wingspan track star playing corner.

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If you watch the 4th quarter of the Ohio St game specifically he is not that impressive. He made some good blocks but almost just as many bad ones. He got beat inside on a swim move and the DE batted the pass down, got stood up at the LOS on a run play that went his way for negative yardage, got blocked into his own offensive lineman by a defender, has a DE run right around him and blowup a running play in the back field, pulled and completely whiffed on a block that lead to his guy blowing up the play in the backfield, had another DE run around him and get pressure on the QB. He looked much much better in the 1st 3 quarters but all of that happened in 1 quarter and in a game that all the analysts are pointing to as the reason why he is good. 

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Also someone who wants Slater please explain to me how Walker Little who (from what I've seen) was ranked higher than Slater at this point last year and was considered a 1st round pick by most people and also sat out of 2020 has now slid to late 2nd/early 3rd. The knock on him is that for OT you really want to see consistency and sitting out a year will really hurt OT, yet somehow Slater does the same thing and goes from fringe 1st/2nd to a top 10 pick. Little does have some injury concerns so I get the slide but I dont get the meteoric rise of Slater. 

Are you just saying you want Slater because McShay has him ranked as the 2nd best OT (Kiper has him classified as a G)? Or is there something else you actually like about him?

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38 minutes ago, panthers320 said:

Also someone who wants Slater please explain to me how Walker Little who (from what I've seen) was ranked higher than Slater at this point last year and was considered a 1st round pick by most people and also sat out of 2020 has now slid to late 2nd/early 3rd. The knock on him is that for OT you really want to see consistency and sitting out a year will really hurt OT, yet somehow Slater does the same thing and goes from fringe 1st/2nd to a top 10 pick. Little does have some injury concerns so I get the slide but I dont get the meteoric rise of Slater. 

Are you just saying you want Slater because McShay has him ranked as the 2nd best OT (Kiper has him classified as a G)? Or is there something else you actually like about him?

I might be wrong, but the rankings from a year ago were based on very limited analysis/casual observations of the prospects fir this year’s draft. 

After starting to really dig in on this years prospects, a lot of things naturally change. Not based on new material, but properly reviewed game tape etc.

Holding someone to a mock draft from a year ago is a bit far fetched.

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19 hours ago, mickeye76 said:

I read there was a corner/safety out of Georgia named DJ Daniel who is 5'11 with 33 inch long arms.  Sorry not sorry I need my franchise left tackle to have vines for arms.  Back to DJ get him in a weight room and he will resemble the type  Fitterer liked when building the legion of boom.  On a tangent bout corners but Robert Rochell out of Central Arkansas fits that mode too. 79 inch wingspan track star playing corner.

A talented fellow with long arms will hold a large advantage over the same level talent short arms fellow....... unless its swinging a baseball bat. 

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12 hours ago, Martin said:

It was always hard to watch Joe Thomas struggle with his 32.5 arms. He could have been really good with longer arms...

Thomas is a great.  A hof tackle.  He is a anomaly though.  I'm not alone in a preference for length at tackle.  Nice comparison though if Slater is Thomas then cool if he ends up a overdrafted interior lineman then....

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7 hours ago, mickeye76 said:

Thomas is a great.  A hof tackle.  He is a anomaly though.  I'm not alone in a preference for length at tackle.  Nice comparison though if Slater is Thomas then cool if he ends up a overdrafted interior lineman then....

Of course long arms is a preference. But my point is that doesn’t automatically disqualify everyone with less than 35 arms. There are exceptions for players with great technique, movement etc. And that is what draft analysts claim about Slater.

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