Draft rumors

[OldhamA]

5 hours ago, ECHornet said:

No doubt it looks like UNC & Miami for the Coastal for the next 5 years. 
 

I’m curious, why is Brevin Jordan a projected 3rd rounder? When I’ve watched him, he’s looked like a game breaker. 

Cos he's undersized and has never stayed healthy enough to play a full season.

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Cos he's undersized and has never stayed healthy enough to play a full season.

supposedly has some hands issues as well

[OldhamA]

22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

supposedly has some hands issues as well

Nah.

[TheSpecialJuan]

 

[ECHornet]

4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Cos he's undersized and has never stayed healthy enough to play a full season.

He’s 1-2 inches shorter than the average TE, but the guy moves better than average for 250lbs. 

[Basbear]

19 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I think I am following the Basbear vs. 45 side bet as much as the draft itself. 

Only a madman would make a bet that 5 or less DTs get picked before round four/106th pick!!

Got to back up what I thought months ago about the DT pool being straight trash, 45 felt there was plenty of DT talent before round 4. 

Reminder I put this into the bet- The pick *MUST* be labeled as a DT, when they are announced. Im banking on two maybe three 3-4 teams view some of the guys as DEs(of course for money reasons they may list them as DT..).  Its going to closer than I first thought and still feel its like 3 guys then....wait til the 5th round before it makes sense. Plus those comp picks may be the death of me, should have fought harder to end the bet before any comp picks started. 

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Only a madman would make a bet that 5 or less DTs get picked before round four/106th pick!!

Got to back up what I thought months ago about the DT pool being straight trash, 45 felt there was plenty of DT talent before round 4. 

Reminder I put this into the bet- The pick *MUST* be labeled as a DT, when they are announced. Im banking on two maybe three 3-4 teams view some of the guys as DEs(of course for money reasons they may list them as DT..).  Its going to closer than I first thought and still feel its like 3 guys then....wait til the 5th round before it makes sense. Plus those comp picks may be the death of me, should have fought harder to end the bet before any comp picks started. 

We are all mad here, Basbear.  It is as if you chased a white rabbit into a hole in the ground and found a whole new world...

[Basbear]

This is how i see the top 8

1-Sinshine

2-Wilson

3-Jones

4-Pitts

5-Chase

6-Smith

7-Waddle

8-Sewell

* Some team may trade up for a QB, but @mrcompletely11 maybe right about his no 4 QBs statement that hes backed up a few times. If no trades this is my best guess

[OldhamA]

57 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

He’s 1-2 inches shorter than the average TE, but the guy moves better than average for 250lbs. 

I mean I've literally watched every College snap of his. I doubt he played at 250lbs at Miami - I'd bet that's Pro Day weight.

To me he's an H-back type TE (lines up in the backfield at times / put him in motion). Jonnu Smith is a good size comparison for him.

I don't think he's as good as Njoku (who's misused in Cleveland - I'd LOVE to trade for him) or Herndon. I don't think he's as good as Mallory either - but then I like my TEs who can play above the rim. 

That said, he's dynamic, for a TE, when he gets the ball in his hands and a willing in-line blocker. He'll carve out a good career somewhere in the NFL. He'd be the best TE on our roster - but ideally he'd be your H-back / 2nd TE rather than the main guy. 

A 3rd round pick is fair value for him and, in the right system with the right QB / OC combo, he'll be a problem. 

[ECHornet]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

I mean I've literally watched every College snap of his. I doubt he played at 250lbs at Miami - I'd bet that's Pro Day weight.

To me he's an H-back type TE (lines up in the backfield at times / put him in motion). Jonnu Smith is a good size comparison for him.

I don't think he's as good as Njoku (who's misused in Cleveland - I'd LOVE to trade for him) or Herndon. I don't think he's as good as Mallory either - but then I like my TEs who can play above the rim. 

That said, he's dynamic, for a TE, when he gets the ball in his hands and a willing in-line blocker. He'll carve out a good career somewhere in the NFL. He'd be the best TE on our roster - but ideally he'd be your H-back / 2nd TE rather than the main guy. 

A 3rd round pick is fair value for him and, in the right system with the right QB / OC combo, he'll be a problem. 

Well I hope the Panthers wouldn’t pass on someone in the third round who would be the best we have at the position. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

 

[45catfan]

22 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I think I am following the Basbear vs. 45 side bet as much as the draft itself. 

What does your gut tell you?  It's going to be tight.  I'm thinking the push (6) will win out honestly.

[MHS831]

4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Nah.

YOU are right--I have been thinking that since about January---read it somewhere, but cannot find it, so I am inclined to think it was another TE--Sorta like Pitts, I almost hesitate to call him a TE because he may not be treated as one by the defense.  I was surprised by his blocking and his YAC. 

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

What does your gut tell you?  It's going to be tight.  I'm thinking the push (6) will win out honestly.

I am not at all high on the DTs.  I think there could be controversy, in that some 3-4 Ends will be listed as DTs--but if you are thinking pure 1 and 3 techniques, I have 7 or 8 in the first 2 days of the draft---but I do not like them---they could drop.