Why Tommy Stevens will be the #3 QB

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes, and they felt they could convert him to a TE--maybe replace Hill and his contract, but that did not happen and they could not keep him.  We want him to be a player like Hill--not a pure TE, and both are listed as #3 QBs.  Obviously Brady loved his athleticism and Hill has value if used correctly--they just did not need 2 Hills in the big easy. We had no Hills, now we have a Hill.  At the very least he helps us prepare for New Orleans twice a year, but I sense he will have an expanding role like Hill does.  (Hill makes about $12m this year---who cares about the #3 QB?)

Having two Hills would be an uphill battle and quite the hill to climb all year long. Brady knew Stevens more that most coaches from working with him at Penn St. He was his guy and tried to stay loyal to us and not become a Saint until those jerks drafted him and left him no choice.

[kungfoodude]

Well, you expect a JAG as your #3 QB. He is a JAG or lower, that is really a given. If he can help with special teams, he adds value that Walker or Will Grier do not add. 

I doubt seriously he will ever be used like Taysom Hill because I would hope our coaches aren't fuging dopes like Sean Peyton is and use some gimmick player for the sake of wanting to look like a genius. 

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by kungfoodude

[ForJimmy]

8 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

In the thread where people are clicking the obvious title then whining when it's about the the team members and roster makeup.

The Huddle giveth and the huddle taketh.... I do feel like we have more trolls than the norm lately. We need some pest control around here...

[PootieNunu]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, you expect a JAG as your #3 QB. He is a JAG or lower, that is really a given. If he can help with special teams, he add value that Walker or Will Grier do not add. 

I doubt seriously he will ever be used like Taysom Hill because I would hope our coaches aren't fuging dopes like Sean Peyton is and use some gimmick player for the sake of wanting to look like a genius. 

 

Thank you for making my point. I agree with you, and not the tommy stevens can play 7 different positions crowd.

If Taysom Hill played for any other team he would not see the field. 

Edited May 19, 2021 by PootieNunu

[Pimpdaddy]

he wont make the team...

 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Pimpdaddy said:

he wont make the team...

 

That is possible too. He has to add enough value to beat out whoever is ahead of him in those positions he is being considered for. If he is mediocre at everything that doesn't really make him valuable, regardless of how versatile he is.

I definitely understand the value of having a Joe Webb type guy but he has to show that ability and proficiency, as well.

[TheSpecialJuan]

4 hours ago, Trainwreck said:

Why are we even talking this JAG

Dumb. He plays for us, the Panthers not Jacksonville

[BlitzMonster]

OK I think I understand Steven's role better now.

He's not a traditional #3 developmental pure QB.  

Stevens is a gadget player who also contributes on special teams.   And he can play emergency QB if necessary.   

I still don't see that as more valuable for the roster spot than stashing another OL or DL (especially a DL - you can never have too many of those guys to rotate in and keep everybody fresh).  

[PootieNunu]

1 minute ago, BlitzMonster said:

OK I think I understand Steven's role better now.

He's not a traditional #3 developmental pure QB.  

Stevens is a gadget player who also contributes on special teams.   And he can play emergency QB if necessary.   

I still don't see that as more valuable for the roster spot than stashing another OL or DL (especially a DL - you can never have too many of those guys to rotate in and keep everybody fresh).  

Dont worry stevens can play OL and DL too. 

[Pimpdaddy]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That is possible too. He has to add enough value to beat out whoever is ahead of him in those positions he is being considered for. If he is mediocre at everything that doesn't really make him valuable, regardless of how versatile he is.

I definitely understand the value of having a Joe Webb type guy but he has to show that ability and proficiency, as well.

If he can trot his ass out there like Taysom Hill...and deliver....ok...i'll know in 5 plays whether he can throw a wrinkle in the O..

 

[PootieNunu]

Just now, Pimpdaddy said:

If he can trot his ass out there like Taysom Hill...and deliver....ok...i'll know in 5 plays whether he can throw a wrinkle in the O..

 

fug that, its stupid af when the saints do it. Let the guys play the positions they were trained to play. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Pimpdaddy said:

If he can trot his ass out there like Taysom Hill...and deliver....ok...i'll know in 5 plays whether he can throw a wrinkle in the O..

 

Yep. I don't think there is gonna be a question about whether he can do it or not. 

[Pimpdaddy]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yep. I don't think there is gonna be a question about whether he can do it or not. 

...We need an injection of the element of surprise in the O...some of the  teams do it...its got to be constructed right tho.. if hes the man to do it...more power to him...be a nice change up from the predictability of FOX/Riv ball... of which i know whos getting the ball every play...

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...We need an injection of the element of surprise in the O...some of the  teams do it...its got to be constructed right tho.. if hes the man to do it...more power to him...be a nice change up from the predictability of FOX/Riv ball... of which i know whos getting the ball every play...

I am very concerned we are gonna see a return to force feeding the ball to CMC. Not sure how many noticed how he was often used in his limited action last season.