Kenny Pickett at 5/6

[davos]

2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Yes let's name the 1 example where that worked out. By the same reasoning let's draft a 6th round QB and hope we get Tom Brady...

 

Reality check..

Will Grier had a better college career then Pickett..

To be fair, Holgorsen's offense was a pass heavy, stat padding, non progressive scheme.  Neal Brown has had issues implementing an offense until this past season and Pickett had to grow and get good with NFL level pre-snap reads and adjustments.   It's actually another reason why I prefer him and Strong (along with Corral).  Combination of a lot of factors and what was asked of them.

You got to look at the mechanics, in-game awareness, ball placement, all factors and Pickett is on par with many top-10 prospects.  Honestly, a ot better than the likes of Bortles, Gabbert, Darnold, Locker, etc. Too many to name.  I can see him at minimum producing in the Cousins/Carr/Ryan type range.  Respect your opinion against him but I do see a lot of things to like even in being a one hit wonder per se.

[davos]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You mothereffers have lost your mind picking this dude at 5.  Completely lost your mind.

Who's saying that? I'm offering him to the table for discussion and many to most are commenting on if it is viable or not.  No one is jumping up and down saying draft him.

[mrcompletely11]

19 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

So was Joe Burrow. This argument is bad, move on. Do not counter with Joe Burrow was highly recruited, so were many garbage QBs. 

Something feels like his production came at the expense that a lot of his team were working under the covid 5th year. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, davos said:

Who's saying that? I'm offering him to the table for discussion and many to most are commenting on if it is viable or not.  No one is jumping up and down saying draft him.

There are plenty of folks on here wanting a qb over a lineman at 5/6.  Picket on here to me seems like the consensus top qb.  I am just putting 2and2 together.

 

This immobile nonathletic fool will be IR'd by week 6.

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, davos said:

To be fair, Holgorsen's offense was a pass heavy, stat padding, non progressive scheme.  Neal Brown has had issues implementing an offense until this past season and Pickett had to grow and get good with NFL level pre-snap reads and adjustments.   It's actually another reason why I prefer him and Strong (along with Corral).  Combination of a lot of factors and what was asked of them.

You got to look at the mechanics, in-game awareness, ball placement, all factors and Pickett is on par with many top-10 prospects.  Honestly, a ot better than the likes of Bortles, Gabbert, Darnold, Locker, etc. Too many to name.  I can see him at minimum producing in the Cousins/Carr/Ryan type range.  Respect your opinion against him but I do see a lot of things to like even in being a one hit wonder per se.

Here come the excuses.. If you have to talk yourself into a prospect and come up with reason why he isn't a "no questions" 1st round talent.. Why make him a top 5- 15 pick??

Clausen, had great mechanics.. Let that sit on your soul when using that as a point..

[ForJimmy]

People on here acting like OL can’t be busts as well while we are rocking a 1st rounder in Erving who is replacing a former first rounder (several years later) Matt Kalil.  If we draft a top LT without trading down just know next season might look very similar to our past couple games (rookie LT playing solid, but teams just blitzing Darnold up the middle). I’m ok with us taking one, but the following year may be terrible. I really want a new coach and trade down….

[davos]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

There are plenty of folks on here wanting a qb over a lineman at 5/6.  Picket on here to me seems like the consensus top qb.  I am just putting 2and2 together.

 

This immobile nonathletic fool will be IR'd by week 6.

I mean, Rhule would cause that but I don't see the arguments for why he is apparently a bad pick outside of pinning it against the need to build an OL.  That's what I'm getting at is, in stepping back, ignoring the noise and needs, what is he as a prospect? Or really any of these guys? Why are you classifying him as a "fool"?

And I'm a Hokie so hate when we draft WVU guys lol.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

People on here acting like OL can’t be busts as well while we are rocking a 1st rounder in Erving who is replacing a former first rounder (several years later) Matt Kalil.  If we draft a top LT without trading down just know next season might look very similar to our past couple games (rookie LT playing solid, but teams just blitzing Darnold up the middle). I’m ok with us taking one, but the following year may be terrible. I really want a new coach and trade down….

Since 2015 (the only year I started from) tackles selected from the top half of the draft rarely bust.  Most at the basic level are productive starters.  Some are pro bowl and a few are all pro.  You can look it up yourself.   Top rated tackles are as good as gold

[davos]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Here come the excuses.. If you have to talk yourself into a prospect and come up with reason why he isn't a "no questions" 1st round talent.. Why make him a top 5- 15 pick??

Clausen, had great mechanics.. Let that sit on your soul when using that as a point..

I'm trying to discuss him, not just shun him and ridicule.  What's the excuse? I'm speaking to what scouts and websites are seeing in reviewing his play.  

[davos]

To set the tone--I'd prefer Ekwonu at our spot at this stage.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, davos said:

I mean, Rhule would cause that but I don't see the arguments for why he is apparently a bad pick outside of pinning it against the need to build an OL.  That's what I'm getting at is, in stepping back, ignoring the noise and needs, what is he as a prospect? Or really any of these guys? Why are you classifying him as a "fool"?

And I'm a Hokie so hate when we draft WVU guys lol.

Not saying "fool" as a dummy just referring to this fool (who we are talking about)

 

IMO the bad pick argument comes from his previous 4 years of results.  Why did he skyrocket out of nowhere?

[frankw]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Rhule aint drafting a 23 year old, 5 year college player to sit on the bench

Well ideally he wouldn't be here but Tepper gonna Tepper I guess.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, davos said:

To set the tone--I'd prefer Ekwonu at our spot at this stage.

Cross, Ikem or evans.  A good chance all 3 will be there at 5.  100% chance 2 of the 3 will be there at5/6. 

[RJK]

Any QB will flame out under this regime. Especially a rookie QB who isn’t a round 1 talent to begin with