Thoughts on trading DJ Moore?

[LinvilleGorge]

5 hours ago, stbugs said:

We do need to see more leadership and effort out of him. He absolutely got lazy on routes where he was supposed to clear out defenders to open up other guys, like when he got Robby pummeled. Whether the losing got to him or not, I don’t know, but he got called out by the announcers multiple games in a row and that’s not acceptable. He’s got the talent and I don’t want to trade him and it shouldn’t even be a discussion except for the fact that Robby was extended.

It wouldn't be surprising at all if the losing and poor QB play was getting to him. Hell, I wouldn't blame him if he demanded a trade at some point.

[parker]

I'd definitely trade him for a 1 or a 2.  He is at best a 2nd WR.  He is inconsistent and not dominant and sometimes just looks like he doesn't have focus.

I am hoping TMJ starts to put it together this year.  We need a guy that can be a red zone threat.

[SCO96]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It wouldn't be surprising at all if the losing and poor QB play was getting to him. Hell, I wouldn't blame him if he demanded a trade at some point.

I doubt he'd demand a trade...but only because he's about to start his 5th season.

DJ will be a free agent at the end of the season. If he chooses not to resign with Carolina, they'll have to let him leave & pick the team of his choice, or hold him hostage by franchising him in 2023.

[shaq]

59 minutes ago, Reebis21 said:

1) Any competent agent is gunna use the whole “3 consecutive 1000 yd seasons” argument as if that means he’s elite in order to push for the most money possible. So while we don’t know the number, is probably okay to assume he’s wanting to secure a large bag

2) You definitely don’t have to resign your own guys, especially not when you have bigger needs and are still building your identity.

Yeah you dont get rid of players who consecutively go over 1000 yards yearly. Also, only four WR's currently make 20 mill or over(Amari, Keenan, Julio, Hopkins). I look at players like Chris Godwin(15 mill), Kenny Golladay(18 mill), I think Dj will get between those ranges. And he definitely deserves it I would be happy to sign him to even a 20 million a year contract. Robby makes 14 million yearly, those are the contracts you avoid. Thats where you waste your cap signing one year wonders to overvalued contracts, resigning your 24 yearold star receiver is the right move. 

You resign your good players its how you create and maintain a good roster. Letting stars go without any massive reason, in return creating massive voids hoping draft picks which statistically highly flop is how you ruin your roster. Were DJ moore away from Robby being our #1 WR... let that sink in

[SCO96]

2 minutes ago, shaq said:

You resign your good players its how you create and maintain a good roster. Letting stars go without any massive reason, in return creating massive voids hoping draft picks which statistically highly flop is how you ruin your roster. Were DJ moore away from Robby being our #1 WR... let that sink in

Edited February 17, 2022 by SCO96

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, shaq said:

Yeah you dont get rid of players who consecutively go over 1000 yards yearly. Also, only four WR's currently make 20 mill or over(Amari, Keenan, Julio, Hopkins). I look at players like Chris Godwin(15 mill), Kenny Golladay(18 mill), I think Dj will get between those ranges. And he definitely deserves it I would be happy to sign him to even a 20 million a year contract. Robby makes 14 million yearly, those are the contracts you avoid. Thats where you waste your cap signing one year wonders to overvalued contracts, resigning your 24 yearold star receiver is the right move. 

You resign your good players its how you create and maintain a good roster. Letting stars go without any massive reason, in return creating massive voids hoping draft picks which statistically highly flop is how you ruin your roster. Were DJ moore away from Robby being our #1 WR... let that sink in

Godwin was on a franchise tag. Not a long term deal. That 18M would be his absolute floor. And he would be crazy to take it with the Panthers not knowing what sort of QB he might play with for the next couple years. Hard to justify giving RA 2/29.5M with one good season and not giving DJ 20M. If Burns makes another Pro Bowl, his 5th year option is 20M. Restructure Moton and his annual hit will be 24M. Shaq is at 18M already. 
 

     If I’m DJ my holdout starts now so I can get to a new team before the draft. What situation would be worse for him to boost his value for FA in 2023. Or sign with the team that just traded for him. I don’t know if the Panthers should trade him, but I do know he has better options elsewhere. And if they don’t want to give him 20M/yr, trade him now while his value is still there. 

    

[Panthercougar68]

 

Grenade 

[frankw]

48 minutes ago, parker said:

I'd definitely trade him for a 1 or a 2.  He is at best a 2nd WR.  He is inconsistent and not dominant and sometimes just looks like he doesn't have focus.

I am hoping TMJ starts to put it together this year.  We need a guy that can be a red zone threat.

It would have to be a first to even get a conversation initiated. Do you recall the Panthers history with 2nd round picks? TMJ has to make his way onto the field and so far he has yet to do anything to break the cycle of our not so good history with that particular round of the draft.

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

 

Grenade 

Watson didn't want to come here last go around you think he will want to when we trade away our top young WR? The whole debacle in Houston began with moving Hopkins for basically peanuts.

[Panthercougar68]

Just now, frankw said:

Watson didn't want to come here last go around you think he will want to when we trade away our top young WR? The whole debacle in Houston began with moving Hopkins for basically peanuts.

End all be all Watson wants to be out of Houston but Houston can be petty and nix anything that doesn’t give them the best offer. These “he won’t want to come here” won’t be 100 percent known till March.

[PNW_PantherMan]

9 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

 

Grenade 

We can talk about trading DJ, but that's just cruel.  I'd never send him to the Jets.

[Panthercougar68]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

We can talk about trading DJ, but that's just cruel.  I'd never send him to the Jets.

For reallllll

I do like perusing these what ifs however 

[Panthercougar68]

Side note Chad Forbes has had a weird obsession with getting DJ Moore into either the Philly or NY market 

[frankw]

7 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

End all be all Watson wants to be out of Houston but Houston can be petty and nix anything that doesn’t give them the best offer. These “he won’t want to come here” won’t be 100 percent known till March.

Oh of course we have no certainty on the notion but if it's between us and the Bucs the Saints possibly NYG or another big market our looming lame duck coaching situation and oline will not do us any favors.