Just throwing this out there..

[WOW!!]

Just now, WOW!! said:

We also watch that team barely beat a Titans and Raiders team with better Olines.. 

We also saw a San Francisco team with the worst QB in the Playoffs beat the best QB and best WR in the league at their house..

 

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

this is super old. RT are just as important as LT now in the league. Teams used to spend a lot of money on focusing on rushing the passer's blind side. Now it goes both ways. 

You have an argument, but your argument is a bit dated.

There is a story by Chris Trapaso under it as well did you read that..

[Growl]

2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

We also watch that team barely beat a Titans and Raiders team with better Olines.. 

We also saw a San Francisco team with the worst QB in the Playoffs beat the best QB and best WR in the league at their house..

“this team lost but they maybe could’ve won”

like lol what kind of argument is that

glad you mentioned the niners, the niners just traded away years worth of plug and play 1st round hog mollies because they knew they didn’t have an elite QB

the QB they did have cost them a super bowl

now they’re getting rid of him

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean....a 4th or less for Love isn't bad. I doubt he pans out but it's a way better and cheaper gamble than Darnold was.

I wouldn't give more than a seventh...

 

 

 

I probably wouldn't give a seventh.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

“this team lost but they maybe could’ve won”

like lol what kind of argument is that

glad you mentioned the niners, the niners just traded away years worth of plug and play 1st round hog mollies because they knew they didn’t have an elite QB

the QB they did have cost them a super bowl

now they’re getting rid of him

 

Yes they traded for a higher rated prospect more of a sure thing ..

You want to take a swing a lower level prospect based on desperation and position value.. Okay

But your taking a swing on prospect rated on the same level as the QB San Francisco is trying to get rid of...

Think about that..

[TheCasillas]

8 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

 

There is a story by Chris Trapaso under it as well did you read that..

I know, that is why I said it was dated. The article is from 2013. That was almost a decade ago, and the league has changed quite a bit, along with positional value.

[Pimpdaddy]

Love stinks, yeaaaa yeaaaa

[joemac]

9 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Definitely don’t think Love is a bust at this point. He’s been playing behind a 1st ballot HOFer who just isn’t ready to go elsewhere yet. Who knows…if he has an entire season to play maybe he puts together a good career. Problem is that at thus point he’s gonna go somewhere else to do it and so he’ll be learning all over again. 
 

BUT! He’s 6 mo younger than Pickett and has already been in the league three years. To me he’s further ahead of Pickett, has more natural arm talent, and would cost less. So to me if you’re not going to draft Corral bc of superior physical traits to Pickett (in a move down) then trading a mid round pick for Love isn’t the worst idea. 

Yup.  He was a first round pick by Green Bay, who happen to know a thing or 2 about picking good QBs, for a reason. 

[Growl]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Yes they traded for a higher rated prospect more of a sure thing ..

You want to take a swing a lower level prospect based on desperation and position value.. Okay

But your taking a swing on prospect rated on the same level as the QB San Francisco is trying to get rid of...

Think about that..

Lol trey Lance was a sure thing? Trey Lance was an FCS QB who didn’t even play his final season. that’s about as opposite a sure thing as you can possibly be.

they traded three 1’s to get him. 

Edited March 24, 2022 by Growl

[WOW!!]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

I know, that is why I said it was dated. The article is from 2013. That was almost a decade ago, and the league has changed quite a bit, along with positional value.

Okay either way .. let's go by your position value now... Is it smart to take a lower prospect at a higher positional rate or a generational talent at a lower positional rate??

[TheCasillas]

Just now, WOW!! said:

Okay either way .. let's go by your position value now... Is it smart to take a lower prospect at a higher positional rate or a generational talent at a lower positional rate??

I dont think there is a blanket answer there. Its competely situational. Cowboys have been drafting "generational" 1st round talent for years... and it really hasnt done them much other than eat cap space.

Hurney drafted BPA while he was here, and that didnt turn into anything.

Bills and Patriots always draft postion of need but they have different results.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

Lol trey Lance was a sure thing? Trey Lance was an FCS QB who didn’t even play his final season. that’s about as opposite a sure thing as you can possibly be.

they traded three 1’s to get him. 

Trey Lance by far would be the number 1 no question 1st pick in this draft... Him being in this draft alone would raise the positional rating of the QBS in this draft.. 

His physical talent alone makes every QB in this draft look like Chris ponder or Joey Harrington..

You can act like any QB in this draft is even close to the prospect Lance is but it wouldn't be true..

[Growl]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Trey Lance by far would be the number 1 no question 1st pick in this draft... Him being in this draft alone would raise the positional rating of the QBS in this draft.. 

His physical talent alone makes every QB in this draft look like Chris ponder or Joey Harrington..

You can act like any QB in this draft is even close to the prospect Lance is but it wouldn't be true..

Why don’t you do an in depth breakdown of trey Lance the prospect for me then?

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Growl said:

Lol trey Lance was a sure thing? Trey Lance was an FCS QB who didn’t even play his final season. that’s about as opposite a sure thing as you can possibly be.

they traded three 1’s to get him. 

And there's a lot of talk but he's still not ready.

[WOW!!]

And based off this debate nobody should question Horn over Slater anymore because positional value and prospect wise Horn was the right pick..