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How dangerous is Willis as a runner? What makes him special?

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I feel like people seem to underrate Willis's ability as a runner... I see lazy comparisons to Johnny football guys who run a 4.7. People have a hard to comparing Willis to a guy because we really have never seen a guy with his blend of skills. This writer has him top 5 all-time as a runner from the position. If your that good at something that makes you special.

He's not Vick or Jackson elite speed,but he's faster than Josh allen and Russell Wilson. He runs with a power neither of those guys can come close 2(vick and jackson).Willis was second in broken tackles last season with legs like tree trunks its not hard to see why. 

Screenshot_20220404-150436_Chrome.thumb.jpg.9a601f8868c712da0737b340d788e2c2.jpgInteresting read up on QB1 

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/nfl-draft-analysis/2022-nfl-draft-rankings-qb1-malik-willis

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yes, since 2020. Howell was literally told by the staff NOT to run prior to this season because they didn't have a backup on the roster they felt comfortable with.

 

I mean Howell isn't exactly immobile himself I don't think..  he definitely deserves to run a few rpos and options

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7 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I feel like people seem to underrate Willis's ability as a runner... I see lazy comparisons to Johnny football guys who run a 4.7. People have a hard to comparing Willis to a guy because we really have never seen a guy with his blend of skills. This writer has him top 5 all-time as a runner from the position. If your that good at something that makes you special.

He's not Vick or Jackson elite speed,but he's faster than Josh allen and Russell Wilson. He runs with a power neither of those guys can come close 2(vick and jackson).Willis was second in broken tackles last season with legs like tree trunks its not hard to see why. 

Screenshot_20220404-150436_Chrome.thumb.jpg.9a601f8868c712da0737b340d788e2c2.jpgInteresting read up on QB1 

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/nfl-draft-analysis/2022-nfl-draft-rankings-qb1-malik-willis

Against teams named Campbell, UNT and ULM.  Hmmmm.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As for Willis, I think he is a good runner. Nothing close to Vick or Lamar. Basically a Cam style runner but a LOT smaller. Not sure how that's gonna work out. I think he has similar speed to Cam.

 

Defensive backs cringed at the idea of having to tackle cam in the open field.  they will however pray to the gods that they get a clean shot on willis

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Defensive backs cringed at the idea of having to tackle cam in the open field.  they will however pray to the gods that they get a clean shot on willis

Yeah, it was Cam's physicality and underrated agility much more so than pure speed that made him so effective as a runner.

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From the article quoted...

Willis:

PFF grade rank: 4
PFF adjusted accuracy % rank: 31
PFF big-time throw % rank: 1
PFF turnover-worthy throw % rank: 26
BTT/TWT rank: 5
PFF clean pocket rank: 14
PFF under pressure rank: 5
ESPN rushing QBR rank: 1
2021 dropbacks: 455
 

Pickett:

PFF grade rank: 1
PFF adjusted accuracy % rank: 4
PFF big-time throw % rank: 20
PFF turnover-worthy throw % rank: 14
BTT/TWT rank: 14
PFF clean pocket rank: 1
PFF under pressure rank: 16
ESPN rushing QBR rank: 9
2021 dropbacks: 581

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

From the article quoted...

 

 

Pickett:

PFF grade rank: 1
PFF adjusted accuracy % rank: 4
PFF big-time throw % rank: 20
PFF turnover-worthy throw % rank: 14
BTT/TWT rank: 14
PFF clean pocket rank: 1
PFF under pressure rank: 16
ESPN rushing QBR rank: 9
2021 dropbacks: 581

I bet Teddy Bridgewater's breakdown looked just like this coming out of Louisville.

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Valid. Nobody's gonna be afraid of hitting Willis.

I think it was against Washington his rookie year where cam broke off and turned the corner and the the corner just tried to get low and made himself a ball and cam just went around him and then laughed at him at the end of the play.  The corner wanted no part in initiating contact with him.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As for Willis, I think he is a good runner. Nothing close to Vick or Lamar. Basically a Cam style runner but a LOT smaller. Not sure how that's gonna work out. I think he has similar speed to Cam.

 

He's about the same weight and an inch or two taller than Jonathan Taylor/Chubb, bigger than CMC, has like 20 pounds on Chuba

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