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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Doug Pederson/Lawerence

Matt Rhule/Sam Darnold and Corral

I think situations are largely defined by the HC/QB combo.   Which rebuild HC/QB combo would you rather be joining. 

Doug is a Super Bowl HC w/ a winning record.  Trevor is still a legit crazy talent....who played w/ no talent as a rookie and w/ a HC that made Rhule look ok. 

It was a little big different when CJ was playing for JAX.  Replace Pederson with Meyer and Lawrence was still a rookie.  I mean they were picking number 1 (again) for a reason...  This year looks much different.

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55 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It was a little big different when CJ was playing for JAX.  Replace Pederson with Meyer and Lawrence was still a rookie.  I mean they were picking number 1 (again) for a reason...  This year looks much different.

Last year Carolina ranks as a slightly better spot.   This year? You would rather be part of the Jags from a big picture perspective IMO. 

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25 minutes ago, CRA said:

Last year Carolina ranks as a slightly better spot.   This year? You would rather be part of the Jags from a big picture perspective IMO. 

I agree. As a player playing for a coach like Urban would have been tough. Especially for a rookie. Pederson is solid. 

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On 6/22/2022 at 8:18 AM, kungfoodude said:

I really have to disagree with the first part of that statement. You rarely accidentally become a Pro Bowler. It's definitely not common.

Players who lack desire to be great or general love for football don't typically enjoy very long or successful careers. 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/13/jordan-cameron-a-lot-of-us-in-the-nfl-dont-love-football/

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On 6/23/2022 at 5:59 PM, CRA said:

Last year Carolina ranks as a slightly better spot.   This year? You would rather be part of the Jags from a big picture perspective IMO. 

With the Khan's at the helm... you never want to be apart of the jags franchise

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17 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

With the Khan's at the helm... you never want to be apart of the jags franchise

we got Tepper.   Call it relative push there. 

Jags got the clear HC/QB edge in terms of building something worthwhile over Carolina. 

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14 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Players develop differently--Josh Norman was a headcase until year 3 or 4. 

Josh always was a headcase, he just had 2 good years of football and one was with us on a SB run. 

 

17 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

I think level of interest could be a differentiator and there is most likely a correlation to success but some guys don’t care for it.   Curtis Martin is one HOF that comes to mind 

I don't think loving football is absolutely necessary. Working hard and treating it as a profession in the NFL is IMO. Maybe that is not true with every position but I am fine with it from a CB if they put in the work regardless of love of the game. That just sounds like old-school coach speak this is outdated. Right up there with who needs water on hot days and play through serious injuries that are a lot more than just a lot of pain.  

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Just now, CRA said:

we got Tepper.   Call it relative push there. 

Jags got the clear HC/QB edge in terms of building something worthwhile over Carolina. 

I wouldnt go that far quite yet... Tepper has the potential to be a Khan.... but he hasnt hit that threshold yet. 

The jury is still out on Lawrence. He was statisitcally the worst QB in the league last year, and you cant blame that on just the coach... People did that for Darnold too with Gase.. and look what happened. 

I will just wait and see at this point. 

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