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Panthers roster moves made by Rhule and Fitterer are starting to pay off under Wilks


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On 11/17/2022 at 5:24 PM, Mr. Scot said:

In a court of law...Riiiight 😄

No such thing as coachspeak or anything.

my point to you is simply one has evidence and one is hearsay defined as (information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.")

You have Fitterer’s own words but you take sports writers over that.  Ok

you have Fitterer’s actions. 3 draft picks and a fifth year option for a qb that had been trash in the nfl for his entire time but the Panthers GM gives up that haul to the Jets for a player they were not going to keep   I suspect they are still laughing at that Fitterer gift to them 

My point to you is simply the GM’s actions back up his words…his words, his actions. 

I get you like to protect your hypothesis. I get that you like Fitterer but please it’s not coach speak with 3 draft picks gone and a fifth year, $ 18.5 million option 

 

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49 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

my point to you is simply one has evidence and one is hearsay defined as (information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.")

You have Fitterer’s own words but you take sports writers over that.  Ok

you have Fitterer’s actions. 3 draft picks and a fifth year option for a qb that had been trash in the nfl for his entire time but the Panthers GM gives up that haul to the Jets for a player they were not going to keep   I suspect they are still laughing at that Fitterer gift to them 

My point to you is simply the GM’s actions back up his words…his words, his actions. 

I get you like to protect your hypothesis. I get that you like Fitterer but please it’s not coach speak with 3 draft picks gone and a fifth year, $ 18.5 million option 

That you would actually expect a GM (or anyone honestly) who doesn't have full control to come out and publicly say they didn't like a player the team acquired is frankly pretty funny.

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33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That you would actually expect a GM (or anyone honestly) who doesn't have full control to come out and publicly say they didn't like a player the team acquired is frankly pretty funny.

His actions show he liked Darnold plenty 

he liked him enough to hitch the franchise to Darnold with those actions  

your not seeing that is pretty ‘funny’ to me particularly since he will most likely be involved in qb evaluation again 

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10 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

His actions show he liked Darnold plenty 

he liked him enough to hitch the franchise to Darnold with those actions  

your not seeing that is pretty ‘funny’ to me particularly since he will most likely be involved in qb evaluation again 

If you really want ant to talk about paying attention to someone's own words, you should go back and look at the comments Fitterer was making during last year's draft process. He was pretty clearly lobbying for getting a quarterback via the draft rather than just sticking with another veteran project.

As to Darnold and the others, aagain, several different sources have confirmed Rhule ran the QB decisions.  Would you suggest that people like Charles Robinson, Joe Person, Ellis Williams and others are all collaborating on their story?

If not, then I guess the similarities in their reports are because that's what happened.

I get that you don't want to hear these thy because they don't suit your narrative, but they're still true.

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15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you really want ant to talk about paying attention to someone's own words, you should go back and look at the comments Fitterer was making during last year's draft process. He was pretty clearly lobbying for getting a quarterback via the draft rather than just sticking with another veteran project.

As to Darnold and the others, aagain, several different sources have confirmed Rhule ran the QB decisions.  Would you suggest that people like Charles Robinson, Joe Person, Ellis Williams and others are all collaborating on their story?

If not, then I guess the similarities in their reports are because that's what happened.

I get that you don't want to hear these thy because they don't suit your narrative, but they're still true.

Apparently, we both have narratives 

We can agree to disagree 

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