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CJ Stroud enters the draft


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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Then you need Pete Carroll because based on Wilson's play in Denver and Geno Smith's play in Seattle, Wilson's career looks like more of a product of Pete Carroll than it does Russell Wilson.

Yes coaching matters but people saying that hoping for Bryce Young to have a Russell Wilson level career would be foolish because of his last year in Denver. Like I said id love to have the Seahawks trophy case than ours since 2012 

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4 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Yes coaching matters but people saying that hoping for Bryce Young to have a Russell Wilson level career would be foolish because of his last year in Denver. Like I said id love to have the Seahawks trophy case than ours since 2012 

Then you want Pete Carroll, not Russell Wilson. They won a SB riding Beast Mode and elite D. They lost a SB trying to transfer the star power from Beast Mode to Wilson.

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Then you want Pete Carroll, not Russell Wilson. They won a SB riding Beast Mode and elite D. They lost a SB trying to transfer the star power from Beast Mode to Wilson.

Yeah that’s elite QB play for a long period of time if you wouldn’t take that here your dreaming 

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14 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I'm not saying that it's not. Now if you'll go and have a peek at Geno's career stats you'll understand my point.

Geno Smith put up Russell Wilson stats this year in Seattle. Russell Wilson put up Geno Smith stats this year in Denver.

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21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Then you want Pete Carroll, not Russell Wilson. They won a SB riding Beast Mode and elite D. They lost a SB trying to transfer the star power from Beast Mode to Wilson.

They lost a Super Bowl calling a dumb play. They likely wouldn't have been in either without Russell Wilson.

Don't be a hater, give Russ his much-deserved props. 

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4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

They lost a Super Bowl calling a dumb play. They likely wouldn't have been in either without Russell Wilson.

Don't be a hater, give Russ his much-deserved props. 

His SB seasons were two of his worst statistical seasons as a Seahawk.

Based on how he looks in Denver and how Geno looked in Seattle, I'm willing to bet a lot of guys could've had Wilson's career under Pete Carroll.

 

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep and it was dumb. But he made Russell an elite QB. Russell leaves and immediately looks like a bum. Enter career journeyman Geno Smith and he looks like an elite QB playing for Pete Carroll.

Geno Wilson has not and likely never will look like Russell Wilson in his prime. Let's not conveniently forget the fact that Wilson is 34 years old. It's very understandable if his play has diminished, but I think it's kind of foolish to throw dirt on him because of one bad season.

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14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

His SB seasons were two of his worst statistical seasons as a Seahawk.

Based on how he looks in Denver and how Geno looked in Seattle, I'm willing to bet a lot of guys could've had Wilson's career under Pete Carroll.

 

Tell me all that when Wilson is in Canton.

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I think Wilson is more than just Carrol for sure but if you put Geno's year this year against Wilson's career it would look like one of Wilson's typical very good years. While Wilson this year hasn't looked great alone, I think he's likely to bounce back to being at least a decent starter...

 

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