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I wasn't too impressed with Steichen's play calling


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3 hours ago, X-Clown said:

Neither is watching the game, apparently

You can say what you want; bottom line is that Siriani and Steichen (and Gannon) got out-coached. You don't realistically go into the game saying that you're going to stop Mahomes, especially with the O-line that they have. The plan is to limit him just enough to allow your offense to win the game for you. The defense gave the offense an opportunity to win, and they just didn't do it, despite having KC on the ropes. 

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18 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am loving reich and I am loving his staff, that said I am still a bit bummed we didnt give Steichen a longer look.  I thought the offense looked fantastic last night

This is exactly how I feel as well…especially after hearing him in this video… 

 

Steichen NFC Champ Game pre-game speech

 

he even uses “Keep Pounding” perfectly in his speech… he could be very good in Indy. Just hope we’re not regretting not taking the chance on him, especially because we didn’t hire a rookie HC again due to the failed Rhule tenure…

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15 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You can say what you want; bottom line is that Siriani and Steichen (and Gannon) got out-coached. You don't realistically go into the game saying that you're going to stop Mahomes, especially with the O-line that they have. The plan is to limit him just enough to allow your offense to win the game for you. The defense gave the offense an opportunity to win, and they just didn't do it, despite having KC on the ropes. 

You can say whatever you want too. Doesn’t mean you are correct.
 

What exactly did the eagles defense do in this game to help them win? 31 points given up despite the chiefs only converting 4 3rd downs (facing 8 of them), No sacks, no turnovers, 6 yards per carry, two walk in touchdowns on the same play call, guys running wide open against a QB that was playing on one leg in the second half. It wasn’t the chiefs video game offense of the past with hill destroying people over the top, and the eagles defense was not a group of untalented JAGs that are just supposed to be there to keep the field warm. This tells me that the outcoaching was chiefs offense vs Phillys defense/DC.  The offense scored 35 points, had over 400 yards, converted 3rd and 4th downs at 65%, won time of possession (so please don’t come at me with the defense is tired argument). The one mistake that hurt them was a fluky fumble on third down that went for 6. 
 

I get that you’ve dug your heels in making this reactionary thread, but you’re not convincing me (or most anyone else) that Steichen sucks, it’s his and the offenses primary fault the eagles lost. If you didn’t want him as a coach that’s fine, but why not apply these standards to one of the guys you’re arguing for in Kafka who managed 7 whole points a few weeks ago against the same group?

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1 minute ago, X-Clown said:

You can say whatever you want too. Doesn’t mean you are correct.
 

What exactly did the eagles defense do in this game to help them win? 31 points given up despite the chiefs only converting 4 3rd downs (facing 8 of them), No sacks, no turnovers, 6 yards per carry, two walk in touchdowns on the same play call, guys running wide open against a QB that was playing on one leg in the second half. It wasn’t the chiefs video game offense of the past with hill destroying people over the top, and the eagles defense was not a group of untalented JAGs that are just supposed to be there to keep the field warm. This tells me that the outcoaching was chiefs offense vs Phillys defense/DC.  The offense scored 35 points, had over 400 yards, converted 3rd and 4th downs at 65%, won time of possession (so please don’t come at me with the defense is tired argument). The one mistake that hurt them was a fluky fumble on third down that went for 6. 
 

I get that you’ve dug your heels in making this reactionary thread, but you’re not convincing me (or most anyone else) that Steichen sucks, it’s his and the offenses primary fault the eagles lost. If you didn’t want him as a coach that’s fine, but why not apply these standards to one of the guys you’re arguing for in Kafka who managed 7 whole points a few weeks ago against the same group?

The fact that you are intimating that I said "Steichen sucks," or that he is a "bum" just tells me that you're not even really addressing the point, which is that he got out-coached badly by the guy on the other side on the biggest stage, when he had them down. Plenty of people believe that. 

The Giants didn't have nearly the team that the Eagles did. I could argue that Kafka actually did more with less. 

You should ask yourself why you're so invested. I was just stating an opinion. I didn't say that Steichen sucks or that he's a bum, what I said is that he may not be all that people are suggesting that he is. If I'm wrong, so what? I'm more concerned with the excellent moves that the Panthers are making with our coordinators.

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