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Panthers met with Hooker per report

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7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Then he is back on a 4 year deal as most people doubt Hooker will play this season and if it at all its past the halfway point

He probably needs to sit a year anyway, but this link claims he could be ready by training camp. I’m sure we will have a better idea as the draft approaches. 

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

He probably needs to sit a year anyway, but this link claims he could be ready by training camp. I’m sure we will have a better idea as the draft approaches. 

May be ready for what?  100%?   Statements like that are vague for the sake of being vague.  A team would absolutely be nuts to roll him out there at the start of the season.  ACL are no jokes no matter what hooker says.  thats a 9 month minimum injury

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

May be ready for what?  100%?   Statements like that are vague for the sake of being vague.  A team would absolutely be nuts to roll him out there at the start of the season.  ACL are no jokes no matter what hooker says.  thats a 9 month minimum injury

He tore it Nov 19th. So 9 months puts him in August. I wonder if he can throw without contact before then? It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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He tore it Nov 19th. So 9 months puts him in August. I wonder if he can throw without contact before then? It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

For sure but I still will say no team is trotting him out there until late in the season if even then so it’s essentially a redshirt year.   That may fit another team’s timetable but it sure as hell doesn’t fit ours.   

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For sure but I still will say no team is trotting him out there until late in the season if even then so it’s essentially a redshirt year.   That may fit another team’s timetable but it sure as hell doesn’t fit ours.   

I’m just thinking if he can practice throwing with the team for training camp, maybe he can get some real game time midseason which isn’t bad for a rookie QB.

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I’m just thinking if he can practice throwing with the team for training camp, maybe he can get some real game time midseason which isn’t bad for a rookie QB.

Be that as it may are you burning a 2nd on him?   I’m not and we already have a developmental qb from the 3rd.  Imo he should be off our draft board

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Be that as it may are you burning a 2nd on him?   I’m not and we already have a developmental qb from the 3rd.  Imo he should be off our draft board

So when does AR get playing time in the NFL? Week 1? I know we are both ok taking him at 9 who probably isn’t playing right away either. The Chiefs didn’t play Mahomes right away, Rodgers didn’t start right away. I don’t think those teams regretted burning a first on either QB. 

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So we are going to dismiss the bad fill prior to Tenn and it's 1 read offense. When he was in the acc, he was pretty meh to bad. And it wasn't like he had some uber talented guys to beat out at VT. That OU/spread O hides QBs. His head coach at Tenn being a perfect example. He's old in prospect terms and from a QB friendly system. Wish him the best but if so eone else wants to spend a 2nd and take the risk, fine.

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So when does AR get playing time in the NFL? Week 1? I know we are both ok taking him at 9 who probably isn’t playing right away either. The Chiefs didn’t play Mahomes right away, Rodgers didn’t start right away. I don’t think those teams regretted burning a first on either QB. 

I think ar plays at some point his rookie year but to your point he is younger and not hurt.  I will trust the staffs plan when it comes to development I just think drafting a qb with a major injury in the 2nd or 3rd is not where this franchise is especially one with huge question marks coming from a basically one read gimmick system.   Hooker is not the answer.   You draft him in the 2nd.  Sit him for 2023 so essentially 2024 is his rookie year at 27.   I mean does that make sense to you?

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think ar plays at some point his rookie year but to your point he is younger and not hurt.  I will trust the staffs plan when it comes to development I just think drafting a qb with a major injury in the 2nd or 3rd is not where this franchise is especially one with huge question marks coming from a basically one read gimmick system.   Hooker is not the answer.   You draft him in the 2nd.  Sit him for 2023 so essentially 2024 is his rookie year at 27.   I mean does that make sense to you?

I guess the ACL injury doesn’t bother me if the staff likes him. ACL recovery has come a long way. The system UT runs is my biggest concern with him. I’ve seen several lobs up to wide open WRs where they slow down to adjust during UT games. I’m just saying the injury recovery isn’t as big of an issue as it seems. It just limits what teams can see from it pre-draft.

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4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I guess the ACL injury doesn’t bother me if the staff likes him. ACL recovery has come a long way. The system UT runs is my biggest concern with him. I’ve seen several lobs up to wide open WRs where they slow down to adjust during UT games. I’m just saying the injury recovery isn’t as big of an issue as it seems. It just limits what teams can see from it pre-draft.

The injury is a huge deal.  You are basically buying an older used car with ball bearing issues already.  Can they be fixed?  Probably.  Is there a chance the wheel is effed up.  Sure potentially.  Now add that to his already shaky draft profile and the I say fug that.   Let someone else buy that lemon.  

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