**The Patriots**

[Henne Given Sunday]

DUN DUN DUN

seriously.....do you guys have a chance next week? we really need you guys to pull out a f**kin win. put us in the division lead.......you are a comon opponent and for tie-breaker purposes a loss to you guy and us winning out....gives us the afc east (again)

so i and all of dolphin-nation (thats gay i know) will be rooting hard for you guys.

so heres my question to realistic panther fans.....do you have a chance?

is delhomme starting? our 1st year starter henne threw it 52 times yesterday.....completed 29......330+ yards 2 tds and a pick.

patriots pass defense is horrible. and i like to think your defense is as good maybe better than ours....and we shut the "almight patriots" out in the 4th quarter.

you played the saints tough (as did we) can you guys beat the patriots?

[Jangler]

To be honest? I really think it will come down to the weather.

[Zod]

Delhomme start = no chance

Moore start = slim chance

[Jangler]

Weather forecast for Sunday...

partly cloudy

16 °F ~ 35 °F

(-9 °C ~ 2 °C)

[jramsey4]

In order to have any chances I think our O is going to have to be much more creative in play selection. And since we have Fox as HC we can expect 3 runs and a punt.

BTW WTF is up with throwing the deep bombs to Moose. Earlier in the season I didn't mind becuase at least they were trying something different (it wasnt long to smith) but now even something as unlikely asking Moose to go deep is predictable. And whats worst is it hasn't even been working to begin with. Idiots.

[Henne Given Sunday]

brady had a hurt finger against us.....we didnt sack him, but got to him alot and hit him hard....wes welker is a bitch to cover.....our dumb d-coordinator had our middle linebackers on him alot....and we got torched for it.

dont do that.

getting to brady is essential. we pressured him into some bad throws....

hopefully d-will comes back healthy and ready to go.....cause you guys can pound the rock all game....keep brady and their offense off the field....their defense is horrible against the pass....and pretty damn bad against the run (giving up something like 4.5 yards per carry this season) run run run....then play action....and maybe come away with a upset victory!

[PntherPryd]

I think we match up well with them. If we can go to the Super Dome and give the Saints a game these guys know they can win in Foxboro. We have to get pressure on Brady and get less predictable on offense.

[PntherPryd]

In order to have any chances I think our O is going to have to be much more creative in play selection. And since we have Fox as HC we can expect 3 runs and a punt.

BTW WTF is up with throwing the deep bombs to Moose. Earlier in the season I didn't mind becuase at least they were trying something different (it wasnt long to smith) but now even something as unlikely asking Moose to go deep is predictable. And whats worst is it hasn't even been working to begin with. Idiots.

Didn't see this before my earlier post but agree 100%. The Patriots don't even need to cheat to guess what play we are running. Somehow we are giving it away because every defense appears to be in our huddle. Can you imagine J-Stew on a play-action play where the safeties and backers actually bite?

I don't mind the bombs to Moose because he usually has a good matchup and is experienced in going up for the ball. But the timing is terrible both with Jake and yesterday. That is all about practice and coaching.:frown2:

[KatsAzz]

I may be the only one but Honestly I think Moore (IF THEY LET HIM MAKE MORE Throws! over 10 yards!) can make plays vs the Pats. People need to stop living in the past! when accessing the Pats..Especially their Defense...In short IT STINKS!!! As of Right now the Pats are a "solid" team...or slight above average team..due to their offense..but...defensively they stink...I mean going forward it will be interesting to see..because The Vikings...You are going to have! to Throw the ball...vs them..Simply because that's how you attack! the Viks..Their Secondary..attempting to run 30 to 40 TImes vs Those DT's...is stupid....and even vs the Pats...I'm pretty Sure Billicheck will take away all the dump off under neath stuff...so i can't wait to see what Matt Can do....but We can have any more 3rd and 7's...with WR's running 4 yard routes...(Davidson) we also can't have 54 year old Moose running Go routes either...

Lets just play Moore the rest of the year and see what he has. I'm not sold on Moore in the slightest yet, but Jake is done, and this way, we either see that Moore has potential or people shut up about him. It's a win-win as far as I'm concerned.

[Henne Given Sunday]

love your confidence guys! this isnt the early 2000's patriots. you can win!!!!!

[ClawOn]

Delhomme start = no chance

Moore start = slim chance

This is correct. Moore starting means we aren't down 14-0 at kickoff. Keep it close, kick a late field goal, and ya never know.

[Brooklyn Bully]

The Patriots of right now, are not the Patriots of old. I mean...come on, they're 7-5. That right there gives us a chance. We play up to teams we're not supposed to beat. We should have beat the Saints and I think we're built to beat a team like the Patriots. It's very possible.

That said, they're 6-0 at home and do NOT want to lose three straight.

It's going to be very difficult.

[Henne Given Sunday]

This is correct. Moore starting means we aren't down 14-0 at kickoff. Keep it close, kick a late field goal, and ya never know.

dunno if you did that on purpose.....lol

but thats exactly what happened yesterday. pats jumped out to a 14-0 lead on us. we had a long drive.....scored a td....held the patriots. stopped em' on 4th and 1.....kicked a FG at halftime....

14-10

they scored again

21-10

we scored a FG....21-13

we hold them.....score a TD

2 point conversion fail

21-19

intercept brady in the endzone!!! our rookie corner vontae davis!!!!

we drive down......FG....22-21

brady has 50 seconds left with no timeouts.....pressure....cameron wake takes brady down, desperation throw....right to channign crowder, he lays down. game over.

keep it close, and you can beat the patriots!!!! make it happen panthers!!! :cheers2:

[CatMan72]

I'd say we have a good chance, I think we match-up with the Patriots well.

We're ranked 3rd in rushing offense and the Pats are ranked 17th in rushing defense. They're ranked 15th in rushing offense and we're ranked 26th in rushing defense. We run the ball well and they don't defend the run particularly well, meanwhile we don't defend the run well, but they don't run the ball well either.

The Patriots passing offense is ranked 2nd and our passing defense is ranked 5th. Our passing offense is ranked 27th and their pass defense is ranked 14th. They pass the ball VERY well, but we defend the pass VERY well. We don't pass the ball well, but they don't defend the pass particularly well either.

The difference in allot of games this year has been the # of times we turn the ball over. If we can manage our own turnovers then I think we have a good shot at beating the Brady bunch.