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Draft lottery talk

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1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Casual fan?

 

Zion on court production can't be questioned. He's played like a allstar since he entered the league. The problem with Zion if off the court dude seems to only focus on eating and women.

 You the only one here looking like a casual fan. First you crying about everyone here wanting Scoot over Miller and now you wanna trade the pick for a fat ass Zion who can't even get on the court.  Last thing this team needs is another Hayward 120 million dollar contract for a guy to play 40 games. 

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3 minutes ago, Cam Lawter said:

 You the only one here looking like a casual fan. First you crying about everyone here wanting Scoot over Miller and now you wanna trade the pick for a fat ass Zion who can't even get on the court.  Last thing this team needs is another Hayward 120 million dollar contract for a guy to play 40 games. 

I said I prefer Miller over Scoot, but I would be happy with Scoot because I think both will be a star.

Also Zion and Hayward are not even on the same level as a player. If Zion gets healthy he is a franchise changer. Fat Zion was still putting up allstar numbers. You act like Zion is just another player. 

 

I recognize the risk that comes with Zion. What im saying is if we have a chance to get that kind of talent we should pursue it. For all we know Zion may just want a change of scenery. Rumors have floated around that he wanted out of New Orleans the moment they drafted him.

 

Last time Zion was in shape he was in the Carolina's. Maybe he needs to be closer to home to his family to keep his mind straight and body right.

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2 hours ago, Cam Lawter said:

 You the only one here looking like a casual fan. First you crying about everyone here wanting Scoot over Miller and now you wanna trade the pick for a fat ass Zion who can't even get on the court.  Last thing this team needs is another Hayward 120 million dollar contract for a guy to play 40 games. 

Agreed. I'm actually not wanting to sign Melo or Bridges.  Hayward's contract comes off the books the following year.  We could do two max contracts that year. This draft build a cheap young core then see who is available that year. 

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52 minutes ago, mickeye76 said:

Agreed. I'm actually not wanting to sign Melo or Bridges.  Hayward's contract comes off the books the following year.  We could do two max contracts that year. This draft build a cheap young core then see who is available that year. 

Once again Charlotte doesn't attract major FA's.

 

The best signing in franchise history has happened to be Gordon Hayward.

 

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1 hour ago, mickeye76 said:

Agreed. I'm actually not wanting to sign Melo or Bridges.  Hayward's contract comes off the books the following year.  We could do two max contracts that year. This draft build a cheap young core then see who is available that year. 

Melo is currently the best superstar potential player charlotte has a shot at. 

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25 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Hayward might be the biggest name that has signed but with money factored in, I think Al Jefferson and David Wesley were much better signings.

And that should tell you just how bad we are at getting star FA's.

 

Big Al and David Wesley was the best we could do in our history. That's kind of embarrassing. Having money means nothing if you don't use it on star FA's.

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It doesn't have to be "star" free agents.  We need to get mid tier guys or rising stars. Melo is a rising star but I am starting to doubt his ceiling. If he can't stay healthy and or his dad gets too involved in the process he could become a headache quick. We need to rebuild. If somehow We can field a young cheap core with better coaching then add key pieces in FA we could compete. Melo and Miller ain't it. Scoot and DeMar Rozen could be. 

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1 hour ago, mickeye76 said:

It doesn't have to be "star" free agents.  We need to get mid tier guys or rising stars. Melo is a rising star but I am starting to doubt his ceiling. If he can't stay healthy and or his dad gets too involved in the process he could become a headache quick. We need to rebuild. If somehow We can field a young cheap core with better coaching then add key pieces in FA we could compete. Melo and Miller ain't it. Scoot and DeMar Rozen could be. 

Demar DeRozan would be the biggest free agent signing in Hornets history. Unless someone wants to play with Melo...the hornets aren't getting big time NBA free agents. That's why currently the biggest signings franchise wise are AL Jefferson and Gordan Hayward. 

Ya don't get rid of Melo unless he doesn't want to stay and you can get two first round picks for him in say 26/27. 

 

Right now, he wants to re-sign with the Hornets. 

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1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

Sounds like the pelicans want Scoot and the hornets threw Zion and Ingram out there

Very well could be!!  No telling how this will shake out but it could grow to multi team and a ton of players. Then again after Monday, they may really just want to make the pick but at least  we have options to improve  the team!!

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      By CamWhoaaCam · Posted

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