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Aaron Rodgers got hurt on turf… the Panthers switched to Turf


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6 hours ago, jbland said:

Grow lights. There’s an entire industry based on indoor agriculture. 

Being able to grow plants/grass/etc indoors with grow lights is not the same as being able to grow and maintain an NFL sized field of grass that needs to hold up to the rigors of an NFL game every weekend.

Just because something can be done for one part of an industry, doesn't mean it's applicable and will work in all other areas.

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6 hours ago, NYPantherFan said:

Have you seen the new retractable pitch for the Real Madrid stadium? This is where Tepper needs to invest his money if he really wants a new stadium... https://youtu.be/epef95O-EwY?si=ZTEP4SjfXOOZV2PH

 

Was hoping someone would mention this, as it's the exact reason my initial post makes the most logical sense.  You put in the new CBA that all outdoor fields need to be converted to grass and make it so any NEW stadiums have to be build in a way that can support grass fields.

Because something like this with Real Madrid isn't remotely feasible to do for an NFL stadium for a variety of reasons.  First being there is probably only 3 stadiums in the entire NFL that they'd even begin a conversation of doing this with, and all 3 of them are already grass fields.  

That has been Real Madrid's stadium for almost 100 years, they weren't ever going to leave it and build a new one, so it had to be renovated.  The only stadiums that would come close to fitting that mold in the NFL are KC, GB, and Chicago, which are already grass fields, every other stadium is relatively new, there aren't any other historically old stadiums in the league that they'd refuse to leave.

Then they also had to play their games in another stadium for a while of course to do that (something that would be a bit tougher to do with the NFL).  

Plus it cost them about $1 billion, at that cost, no NFL team would do that, they'd just build a new stadium, which again isn't an option for a major european soccer club that has played in their stadium for almost 100 years.

 

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7 hours ago, Waldo said:

Owners do not care because it's all about the money. If Arizona can roll out a grass field in a dome in the desert then they could figure it out anywhere else but they won't because it would be very expansive and they can just replace the hurt players with rookies next year while they throw lame concerts for even more money on that garbage turf. It cold be done but the price would be very expensive at some locations due to geographical location and stadiums designs. The Romans flooded the colosseum 2 thousand years ago and had navel battles so lol to people saying they couldn't put grass in NFL stadiums if they wanted to make it happen. 

I wish the players would force the issue but even they are about their money first or they would make it an issue. That is the NFL at it's most stripped down. 

Exactly. Now days, grass is possible. It will just cost money. Not an unreasonable amount but still money. Turf eliminates the need for said money. But players don’t mean much when you have emotional fans. The fact the Panthers are still highly profitable after half a decade of poo spells it out. The owners can do whatever the want.

Owners are businessmen first - I don’t think fans fully comprehend what that means.

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3 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Being able to grow plants/grass/etc indoors with grow lights is not the same as being able to grow and maintain an NFL sized field of grass that needs to hold up to the rigors of an NFL game every weekend.

Just because something can be done for one part of an industry, doesn't mean it's applicable and will work in all other areas.

Um…ok. You can use grow lights to help grow sod indoors. Sod typically requires natural sunlight to thrive, but if you want to establish or maintain sod indoors, you would have to use full-spectrum grow lights that mimic the sun's spectrum of light. You just have to make sure to provide the sod with the right amount of light, water, and proper care to ensure healthy growth.

But I guess we all can’t be experts in horticulture. 

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Tepper demanded an all granite/marble special structurally engineered ceiling for his casa which is an almost insanely dangerous ask..so rolling some real grass may not be an insane ask for the stadium upgrade wish list. 

I read there was promise with replacing the rubber pellets with shreadded natural cork but that could have been NFL owner propaganda so....not sure how much validation there is on safety. 

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