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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I agree with that.   I still am fuming about the "bad zoom interview" with Steichen.  I couldnt believe Tepper and co were that moronic.  

It just sounded like they wanted him to do what Frank would and he balked. Ben just walked away and said no to everyone.

And Frank is absolutely looking like a bigger part of the Indy mess then his fans would admit. They blamed everyone else yet here he is in peak form doing so much worse.

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7 hours ago, Varking said:

What’s the success rate for a rookie QB to turn out okay after his coach is fired after one season? It’s usually tough for them having to deal with new offensive coordinators from year 1 to 2, I imagine it’s even tougher for them to get a whole new head coach. 

It certainly helped Trevor Lawrence

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      Correct.  It’s really hard to get open in the NFL when opposing defenses gameplan and cheat coverage/routes on all your players because they know your QB can’t make certain throws/plays.   magically no one that comes to Carolina can get open or make plays with the ball in their hands…..it’s like there is one singular common dominator to it all.  BY makes playing defense way too easy.   NFL players are too good to allow one side to cheat coverage and not respect all the potential threats of a route  so you can dial up a great play.  But if corners and safeties just cheat coverage and know X and Y happening on route/threats….getting open gets hard when they just play it one way.  Getting open has a lot to do with the different threats a WR can pose on a given play.  
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