A Bleak Picture Concerning Bryce

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, recceice said:

Omg!!! Are you serious??? 
Damm you hate BY that much  to try and make this sound good in your head?? Really..

I refuse to debate any of that BS you just typed..  

All those player would start on this team right now…

 

Wow it’s gone this far..

This is why it's best not to treat the stans seriously. When you actually breakdown reality for them they... well, they breakdown.

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is why it's best not to treat the stans seriously. When you actually breakdown reality for them they... well, they breakdown.

But he claims to ignore you

[ickmule]

8 minutes ago, recceice said:

All those player would start on this team right now…

So could most college players. lol. 

[recceice]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is why it's best not to treat the stans seriously. When you actually breakdown reality for them they... well, they breakdown.

Okay let’s do this.. 

1. Smitty way better then Thelien.. Smitty the year before Cam played with Pickles Clausen not Cousin.. Trying to compare numbers the year of the worst offense in history is disingenuous and wild to make a point from..

Not even a question Lafell easily start on this team now.. Better route runner better hands and more reliable then anybody but Thelien..

2. Shockey and Olsen were better are better then Hurst, Tremble and Thomas combined.. Even A “past his prime Shockey” was a better blocker route runner and overall talent than any TE on the roster and Olsen please!! Smh

3. Moton maybe the only Olinemen to start on that Oline.. We weren’t questioning pass blocking or scheme with them.. They were healthy consistent and experienced… None of that can be said about our Oline now..

What else do have to debunked??

[recceice]

8 minutes ago, ickmule said:

So could most college players. lol. 

Good point.. Thanks for admitting it..

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, recceice said:

Okay let’s do this.. 

1. Smitty way better then Thelien.. Smitty the year before Cam played with Pickles Clausen not Cousin.. Trying to compare numbers the year of the worst offense in history is disingenuous and wild to make a point from..

Not even a question Lafell easily start on this team now.. Better route runner better hands and more reliable then anybody but Thelien..

2. Shockey and Olsen were better are better then Hurst, Tremble and Thomas combined.. Even A “past his prime Shockey” was a better blocker route runner and overall talent than any TE on the roster and Olsen please!! Smh

3. Moton maybe the only Olinemen to start on that Oline.. We weren’t questioning pass blocking or scheme with them.. They were healthy consistent and experienced… None of that can be said about our Oline now..

What else do have to debunked??

I'm not saying Smitty isn't better than Theilen. If course he was. But we had no idea Smitty would get back to being Smitty. He was a 30+ year old receiver with back to back seriously declining seasons. How many of those guys bounce back to prime production?

Yes, Shockey + Olsen is better than Hurst + Tremble but we ran a lot of two TE sets under Chud. We run very few currently. And yeah, Hurst and Shockey were coming off of similar seasons at a similar age. Olsen was brought in to be Shockey's understudy and hopefully takeover long-term. It worked perfectly.

Moron would've started on that 2011 team and Icky would've been starting at OG. 

A legit franchise QB and a good offensive system make a huge difference. We have neither currently and that's a big reason why it all looks like trash.

[recceice]

26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Let's examine that a little further...

Smitty was coming off 982 yard and 554 yard seasons and looked like he might be past his prime at 32. Sounds a lot like Thielen, no?

Olsen was coming off a 400 yard season and was a disappointment of a 1st round pick in Chicago.

Shockey was past his prime and Cam's rookie season would end up being his last; he was coming off of a 400 yard season. At the time this was basically considered a Hayden Hurst level acquisition, albeit younger.

Lafell was a second year player coming off of a sub-500 yard season. Basically the equivalent of TMJ.

Stewart and Will were coming off of 800ish yard seasons. Sanders had 1200+ last year.

Kalil and Gross were great OL, no doubt. Wharton was a good versatile OL, same with Hangartner. But Moron is a good OT, last year we were all very excited about Icky's play, Bozeman looked very good, and signing Corbett we all expected this to be our best OL in years and potentially one of our best ever.

The talent on paper difference isn't all that extreme going into the seasons. Then the seasons happened.

Okay Dwill and Stew compare to Sanders Chubba and Blacksheer(who they don’t use).. Didn’t fumble ran hard better pass catchers faster (both were big play threats) and again we had 2 of them.. Stew as a power back in this offense would feast and be exactly what we need now.. 

[Wundrbread33]

3 hours ago, recceice said:

This is BS

Nah that’s closer to reality regarding his talent. 
 

I’d bump him as a late 2nd-3rd because of how much his “intangibles” were loved, and how he played at Bama, but his physical ability is below average in nearly every aspect.

There is a reason (and a wise choice btw, can’t hate the strategy) that he didn’t throw at the combine. 
 

We get to see why each Sunday. 

[Seltzer]

51 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Cam carried this team very often. Something #9 will never do.  

When did Cam carry this team the 1st two seasons?  Some of y'all either have revisionist history or can't remember.

Cause there was a constant drumbeat of Cam haters and doubters from Day 1.

Half this freaking board wanted Cam gone before we went on that winning streak in 2013.

 

[recceice]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not saying Smitty isn't better than Theilen. If course he was. But we had no idea Smitty would get back to being Smitty. He was a 30+ year old receiver with back to back seriously declining seasons. How many of those guys bounce back to prime production?

Yes, Shockey + Olsen is better than Hurst + Tremble but we ran a lot of two TE sets under Chud. We run very few currently. And yeah, Hurst and Shockey were coming off of similar seasons at a similar age. Olsen was brought in to be Shockey's understudy and hopefully takeover long-term. It worked perfectly.

Moron would've started on that 2011 team and Icky would've been starting at OG. 

A legit franchise QB and a good offensive system make a huge difference. We have neither currently and that's a big reason why it all looks like trash.

1. Point is he did.. This isn’t predictions Smitty was a top number 1 wr for years after Cam’s rookie season.. Cam literally had a number 1 wr threat BY doesn’t.. Thelien is a 2 or 3 on teams with more talent.. Are you arguing what you thought would happen or what actually happened?? 
 

2. Omg thank you for making another point.. We actually had a OC who knew how to use the talent he had (which was a lot).. BY OC and HC trying to run their offenses. Chud made one for Cam .. Good point.. Cam had better coaching and a better scheme made for him by those coaches..

3. Ickey hasn’t played guard yet so that’s a opinion.. But what your trying to neglect saying is Cam had a way better Oline then BY.. Yea I agree..

4. Agree to disagree.. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Seltzer said:

When did Cam carry this team the 1st two seasons?  Some of y'all either have revisionist history or can't remember.

Cause there was a constant drumbeat of Cam haters and doubters from Day 1.

Half this freaking board wanted Cam gone before we went on that winning streak in 2013.

 

This is another tier of coping 

[Seltzer]

2 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Nah that’s closer to reality regarding his talent. 
 

I’d bump him as a late 2nd-3rd because of how much his “intangibles” were loved, and how he played at Bama, but his physical ability is below average in nearly every aspect.

There is a reason (and a wise choice btw, can’t hate the strategy) that he didn’t throw at the combine. 
 

We get to see why each Sunday. 

Point to one example where Bryce had an even remotely clean pocket and wasn't able to make the throw?

Seriously, show me one example.  People are just making sh*t up at this point.

There is a litany of film showing Bryce slinging the ball 50 yards.

There is some Alfred Hitchcock level gaslighting going on in here... jesus christ

[recceice]

1 minute ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Nah that’s closer to reality regarding his talent. 
 

I’d bump him as a late 2nd-3rd because of how much his “intangibles” were loved, and how he played at Bama, but his physical ability is below average in nearly every aspect.

There is a reason (and a wise choice btw, can’t hate the strategy) that he didn’t throw at the combine. 
 

We get to see why each Sunday. 

Who pays you for your draft analysis???

Please post 1 draft analysts (a real one please) that said BY was a 2nd round pick…

Dont worry I’ll wait..

[Seltzer]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This is another tier of coping 

Find something else to do while the adults are trying to have a conversation.

You are a pathetic troll who is lucky to hide behind a keyboard.

For real, I don't have anything else to discuss with you one way or the other.  Be gone.

@Moderators- Is this seriously the board you want to run here??...

Nothing but unmitigated trolling... seriously WTF happened to this place??