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A Bleak Picture Concerning Bryce


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9 minutes ago, recceice said:

Okay Dwill and Stew compare to Sanders Chubba and Blacksheer(who they don’t use).. Didn’t fumble ran hard better pass catchers faster (both were big play threats) and again we had 2 of them.. Stew as a power back in this offense would feast and be exactly what we need now.. 

I’m not reading 9 pages…but this sounds like a “Cam had a better team” argument. 
 

Just stop. Doesn’t matter. 
 

Cam immediately made it clear he not only belonged, but could be a dominate player in the NFL. 
 

He would have done likewise as a rookie on this team. 
 

Has little to do with wins and stats. It’s about the ability the player flashes independently. 
 

Bryce has had a max of a handful of plays if we are being generous, but I can only think of one throw to Theilen off the top of my head. 
 

Cam showed you every game. Even his shitty games. 
 

Bryce struggles to get 150 yards. Cam sleep walks past 150 yards. 
 

Let’s stop disrespecting Cam.

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8 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

Point to one example where Bryce had an even remotely clean pocket and wasn't able to make the throw?

Seriously, show me one example.  People are just making sh*t up at this point.

There is a litany of film showing Bryce slinging the ball 50 yards.

There is some Alfred Hitchcock level gaslighting going on in here... jesus christ

 

 

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Just now, Wundrbread33 said:

I’m not reading 9 pages…but this sounds like a “Cam had a better team” argument. 
 

Just stop. Doesn’t matter. 
 

Cam immediately made it clear he not only belonged, but could be a dominate player in the NFL. 
 

He would have done likewise as a rookie on this team. 
 

Has little to do with wins and stats. It’s about the ability the player flashes independently. 
 

Bryce has had a max of a handful of plays if we are being generous, but I can only think of one throw to Theilen off the top of my head. 
 

Cam showed you every game. Even his shitty games. 
 

Bryce struggles to get 150 yards. Cam sleep walks past 150 yards. 
 

Let’s stop disrespecting Cam.

If it doesn’t matter why the fug are you replying??

plain and simple Cam was great but he did have a better situation.. 
 

Its really not debatable.. 

 

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1 hour ago, recceice said:

That’s BS .. 

Stroud been that dude since HS just like BY He’ll still be good year after year .. Both have talent and have been top QB most their lives.. Stroud has a good situation now BY doesn’t.. It is what it is..

Just saying that 11 games one way or the other doesn’t make a career. It could very well take Bryce 4-5 years for the light to come on. What is evident right now is he cannot decipher real or fake blitzes

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1 minute ago, recceice said:

If it doesn’t matter why the fug are you replying??

plain and simple Cam was great but he did have a better situation.. 
 

Its really not debatable.. 

 

To explain why it doesn’t matter. Thought that was clear.

 

Cam contributed to his team getting better. 
 

Bryce contributed to his team getting worse.
 

Now that’s something that isn’t debatable.

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Just now, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Just saying that 11 games one way or the other doesn’t make a career. It could very well take Bryce 4-5 years for the light to come on. What is evident right now is he cannot decipher real or fake blitzes

Completely agree..

Just saying I feel both will be good.. And both have been good for a long time.. 
 

This isn’t the 1 year wonder or off the field bust situation.. 
 

Both were good prospects and should be really good pros..

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16 minutes ago, recceice said:

1. Point is he did.. This isn’t predictions Smitty was a top number 1 wr for years after Cam’s rookie season.. Cam literally had a number 1 wr threat BY doesn’t.. Thelien is a 2 or 3 on teams with more talent.. Are you arguing what you thought would happen or what actually happened?? 
 

You don't get it. You're using the benefit of hindsight. Going into the 2011 season we had no idea if Smitty would or could bounce back. Very few players in that situation do. Having a legit franchise QB feeding them the ball certainly helps.

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