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Panthro

By Panthro,
in Carolina Panthers

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67 members have voted

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    • Smith for Rivers
      7
    • Williams for Rivers
      20
    • Either
      11
    • Neither
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holycrikey Newbie

holycrikey

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Tough call. I love both Smitty and Williams, but if we got rid of Smitty, who the hell would we have at WR for Rivers to throw to?

I'd get rid of Williams and put the weight on J-Stew.

Eh, it's all fantasy anyway. Rivers is a bit of a bitch at times and I hope that Matt Moore is the future.

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PantherBrew Newbie

PantherBrew

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I would trade both for Rivers. Anyone who says they wouldnt is being way to much of a homer.

Dont get me wrong, I love Smitty and Dwill. I have an authentic autographed Steve Smith jersey.

However, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on this deal. You are getting a great, potentially elite QB that is going to be with your team for 10 years. And giving up a receiver with maybe 2 more years left in his prime and a running back with maybe 4 years.

Honestly, I would almost package them both together to get Rivers if he would sign an extension.

Winning a Super Bowl is more important than the Panthers keeping my favorite players. I know what you are thinking... Just because we have Rivers doesn't mean we are going to win the Super Bowl. But having Rivers is going to get us alot closer than having either of the other players.

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Anyone who thinks getting a top QB is an automatic ticket to the Super Bowl by itself, regardless of other circumstances, needs to talk to a Bears fan.

Trades should always build your team. That's why you trade depth players (or picks) for need. Otherwise you simply fill one need while creating another.

And to this I know someone will suggest that the RBs have depth. I don't agree. Stewart/Sutton or Stewart/Goodson is not the equal of Williams/Stewart, not by a long shot. The running game is good because of the tandem, not the individuals.

Getting Rivers while weakening the running game and/or giving up the only receiver on the team that opposing defenses have to account for just doesn't make sense.

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I would trade both for Rivers. Anyone who says they wouldnt is being way to much of a homer.

Dont get me wrong, I love Smitty and Dwill. I have an authentic autographed Steve Smith jersey.

However, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on this deal. You are getting a great, potentially elite QB that is going to be with your team for 10 years. And giving up a receiver with maybe 2 more years left in his prime and a running back with maybe 4 years.

Honestly, I would almost package them both together to get Rivers if he would sign an extension.

Winning a Super Bowl is more important than the Panthers keeping my favorite players. I know what you are thinking... Just because we have Rivers doesn't mean we are going to win the Super Bowl. But having Rivers is going to get us alot closer than having either of the other players.

Truer words have never been spoken. Do we have to keep reminding, how many teams that run more then they pass made it to the Championships games? The Jets. And even they barely made the playoffs.

If you want to succeed in this league in todays NFL you have to find a Franchise QB and build a passing game around him. Who in the NFL has enjoyed the most Prolonged success?

Colts - Manning

Patriots - Brady

Steelers - Big Ben

The Saints just won a Super Bowl by doing it. And yet you wouldn't trade a 27 yo (next season) RB for a great QB who has already proven he is a top 5 or 7 QB over multiple seasons in the NFL?

I agree with all who say it is like cutting off your nose to spite you face with the Smith trade? We have had a time finding a #2 receiver we do not need the headache of having to build receiver core from scratch.

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Anyone who thinks getting a top QB is an automatic ticket to the Super Bowl by itself, regardless of other circumstances, needs to talk to a Bears fan.

Trades should always build your team. That's why you trade depth players (or picks) for need. Otherwise you simply fill one need while creating another.

And to this I know someone will suggest that the RBs have depth. I don't agree. Stewart/Sutton or Stewart/Goodson is not the equal of Williams/Stewart, not by a long shot. The running game is good because of the tandem, not the individuals.

Getting Rivers while weakening the running game and/or giving up the only receiver on the team that opposing defenses have to account for just doesn't make sense.

Top QB is more important than running back depth.

Top QB is waaaay harder to find then a good running back.

And it is debatable to how good of a QB Jay Cutler was.

I didn't think much of him when he played for the Broncos. But thats irrelevant.

I guarantee if you asked 32 GM's in this league if they would make these trades that they would do it in a split second.

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