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Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws

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But seriously though this horrid season might be a blessing in disguise. Did we really want another Cam Newton/Ron Rivera situation? Where the #1 pick QB is constantly overcoming the horrendous coaching decisions being made thus keeping him employed for longer than he should have been? Frank was clearly not going to be the answer here. And hopefully Fitterer is fired for the mess he created as well. If this season accomplishes that at a minimum our future is already brighter. If Bryce can't improve with hopefully a better HC hire (can it really be worse than the last 2?) next season the new coach will probably bench him and we will be in prime position to draft the top QB in '25. That's honestly how I'm looking at this entire situation. Bryce deserves a chance with hopefully a better coach and team around him then after that we'll see what happens.

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6 hours ago, CBird said:

Check this lovely picture in the article.  His EYES ARE CLOSED WHILE HE IS THROWING…..

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-1-pick-bryce-young-183555519.html

You don't understand. Bryce was using the technique of positive visualization, which is one of the many advanced tools at his disposal that justified his high draft position. 

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6 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Either hope he gets better with a better HC hire next year or go root for another team or not watch football at all. What other option is there other than cheering against your favorite team? Who honestly roots for their team to fail? Seems like a pointless concept does it not?

Hope isn't a realistic plan but if that's where you are at now God bless because you are at rock bottom 

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16 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hope isn't a realistic plan but if that's where you are at now God bless because you are at rock bottom 

Oh but your "realistic" plan is to give up on a #1 overall pick after 1 season in which the entire team is bad. This is not an offense that is "one QB away" from consistently winning football games and if that's what you believe then you are further down than whatever rock bottom is

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Nobody wants Bryce Young to fail and the team to have given up what we did for nothing. Acknowledging the full reality of the situation as it stands ≠ rooting for failure.

If you didn't go this hard in defense of Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold PJ Walker Teddy Bridgewater or Kyle Allen then just give it a rest.

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25 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Oh but your "realistic" plan is to give up on a #1 overall pick after 1 season in which the entire team is bad. This is not an offense that is "one QB away" from consistently winning football games and if that's what you believe then you are further down than whatever rock bottom is

I’ve never said move on.   I said he probably gets next year but I know how this movie ends.  He is too small too weak for the nfl.   If a coach can design a nfl offense for him to succeed in, I still doubt we can win playoff games in it as it’s going to be a dink and dunk version.  

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9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I’ve never said move on.   I said he probably gets next year but I know how this movie ends.  He is too small too weak for the nfl.   If a coach can design a nfl offense for him to succeed in, I still doubt we can win playoff games in it as it’s going to be a dink and dunk version.  

Uh, Reich tried, remember?  Everyone was b*tching about not pushing the ball downfield.  80%-90% of Bryce's passes were under 10 yards, heck a large portion were even behind the LOS.

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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Uh, Reich tried, remember?  Everyone was b*tching about not pushing the ball downfield.  80%-90% of Bryce's passes were under 10 yards, heck a large portion were even behind the LOS.

I was referring to a more competent coach and a more competent system because to be honest I have no clue what reich and brown were trying to do with young.  I truly think that they built an offense, drafted young and quickly realized this kid cannot execute it due to many reasons and they were poo out of luck

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I was referring to a more competent coach and a more competent system because to be honest I have no clue what reich and brown were trying to do with young.  I truly think that they built an offense, drafted young and quickly realized this kid cannot execute it due to many reasons and they were poo out of luck

Bingo.  Expecting the #1 overall player to execute in the NFL was a foolish expectation for them.

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18 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Uh, Reich tried, remember?  Everyone was b*tching about not pushing the ball downfield.  80%-90% of Bryce's passes were under 10 yards, heck a large portion were even behind the LOS.

This is why a Frank Smith of Miami makes sense if we're going for an offensive coach.  Lots of motion, effective game planning/use of formations, and works with a physically limited yet accurate QB.  It's up to the new GM and coach to figure out an OL that can work for that kind of offense.  I think we need more dancing bears than maulers for something resembling the Miami offense. 

We'll also need legit playmaking WRs.  Anyone know if Hill is a FA? Ha ha...

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2 minutes ago, d-dave said:

This is why a Frank Smith of Miami makes sense if we're going for an offensive coach.  Lots of motion, effective game planning/use of formations, and works with a physically limited yet accurate QB.  It's up to the new GM and coach to figure out an OL that can work for that kind of offense.  I think we need more dancing bears than maulers for something resembling the Miami offense. 

We'll also need legit playmaking WRs.  Anyone know if Hill is a FA? Ha ha...

im all about giving smith a hard look but he doesnt call the plays and he didnt design the offense

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

im all about giving smith a hard look but he doesnt call the plays and he didnt design the offense

Don't worry, I'm sure the Teppers can do that....  =P  Or is that too soon for a bad joke?

Honestly, who knows?  How many HCs can also be effective play caller?  How many play callers have the ability to lead?  So..???  I have no clue!  

Personally: I want the Panthers to get the best HC, not smartest offensive brain.  We need someone to lead the team, and then we can work with the rest.

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