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Bryce Young is historically bad, and he's regressing


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Regressing or just being who he always was just now with NFL tape to prove it? The NFL isn't as easy as the NCAA and people who can't understand that are the ones that think he would be playing OK in Houston. His school tape was trash and he is living proof that school stats mean nothing when the training wheels come off. Hell one guy is still posting his school videos like it means anything other than how easy it is to win at that level and how lazy the draft stuff on him was from most of the 'experts'. 

We are worse with Bryce than we were with the any of the last 5 years of QBs. That is how bad Bryce really is at this level. 

 

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54 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

He got drafted to and plays for the worst organization in the NFL. The Carolina Panthers have the worst win % out of ALL professional sports teams since 2019. Yes that includes the NBA MLB etc. Dead last. It's going to take more than drafting a QB #1 overall into a talent deficient offense with a lame duck coaching staff to turn this around.

Go ahead and blame it all on Bryce though. Whatever helps you all cope with the fact that you are fans of the worst organization in ALL of professional sports

He's made the worst organization in the nfl much worse. That's not what elite qbs are supposed to do. 

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2 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

He got drafted to and plays for the worst organization in the NFL. The Carolina Panthers have the worst win % out of ALL professional sports teams since 2019. Yes that includes the NBA MLB etc. Dead last. It's going to take more than drafting a QB #1 overall into a talent deficient offense with a lame duck coaching staff to turn this around.

Go ahead and blame it all on Bryce though. Whatever helps you all cope with the fact that you are fans of the worst organization in ALL of professional sports

I must say you are certainly committed to blaming anyone on down to the team waterboy for Bryce Young playing poorly and losing. What a guy.

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