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Stern: Expect Bobcats Sale Within 60 Days


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I honestly don't think people are trying to get Bob to sell, unless you have facts to back your statements. He has done a lot for the NBA here in Charlotte, I just think that people are keeping their distance because of the Hornets. Your thoughts?

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Three factors have lead to the Bobcats financial difficulties so far:

1. Still allot of people who feel burned by the Hornets.

2. Allot of folks who have moved to Charlotte and have allegances to other teams.

3. The Bobcats being a cellar-dweller until this season.

If the Bobcats start winning, I firmly believe people in Charlotte will jump on the bandwagon.

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be careful what you wish for people

Thank you.

They say winning cures everything and I believe that. It's one thing to ask fans to support a team when the team is 0-15! We aren't... we are a run to make the playoffs, are playing great, have a bunch of great guys, and are run by one of the greatest coaches of all time! People in Charlotte should be psyched and ready to support this club!!! They aren't.

Let the past go. We are winning now and the lack of support is inexcusable.

Think of how many times Shinn traded away our plays... L.J., Alonzo, Anthony Mason, Glen Rice, etc. He never resigned anybody long term. Johnson has opened his wallet for the right guys even though the city has shown absolutely no appreciation.

Johnson gave us Jordan who gave us Brown, a living legend and great coach. Be careful... the glass isn't always greener on the other side.

I hope this is the change we need, because I would love to see this team get the support it deserves. I would never wish for less for this club; they deserve it.

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1. Still allot of people who feel burned by the Hornets.

If you mean burned by Shinn and his group (not the "Hornets" per say), then I agree. Still, most financial investors (like 100%! haha) would tell you the TRUTH --- that the original Coliseum on Paul Buck wasn't up to par and it needed to be replaced!!!

Shinn had argued for nearly 6+ years before his team's exit... begging the city for a new arena. They didn't budge. He then threaten to move (first to Louisville, then to Norfolk at one point, and then New Orleans). When we refused to budge after numerous threats, he actually moved.

I wish the NBA, like they did for Seattle, let Charlotte keep the name "Hornets" because I miss calling our home, "the Hive" the connection the name had with the city's history, and all that stuff. BUT that's another post for another day.

BUT the demise of the Charlotte Coliseum was imminent. Everybody who saw the financial side of things, knew Shinn was right (it was time for a new place to play!).

BUT the sad part was... the Coliseum's failure to WORK was his fault in many ways! The city's plan for the original Coliseum was a disaster from the start! For one, the location blew!!! I think an arena belongs downtown where all the excitement is (it's why I love Bank of America Stadium; being in the heart of it all). I been to other stadiums and it's great to walk around after a game or before one, and enjoy the sights and sounds.

Secondly, and a much bigger problem, the Coliseum broke ground in 1986, at the same time The Palace of Auburn Hills in Detroit and Amway Arena in Orlando did. The Palace featured over 100 luxury boxes and 26 at Amway. How many did the Coliseum bolster? 8! :rolleyes:

With the growing salaries of professional athletes and the need for luxury boxes and club seats, did city officials and George Shinn make ANY effort to THINK about the future or pro sports and big contracts? No wonder we couldn't afford big time players or money to resign top athletes. Who didn't see the issue with only having 8 luxury boxes? :confused: Bank of America has over 160!!!

The Coliseum wasn't old - TRUE - and I think people thought it was silly to call it outdated but... it was. It like they rushed to build SOMETHING without putting enough thought into it's ability to grow with the game. :mad:

2. Allot of folks who have moved to Charlotte and have allegances to other teams.

Charlotte is a city of transplants. No arguing from me there. I even wonder if the bottom line is, it isn't BIG enough to support two pro teams. I hear a lot of talk about pro baseball... good luck that that! :rolleyes:

I still believe that even though the Hornets won the heart of the city because it was ALL they had and the Panthers took a slice out of the pie. Still, support for this team can exist and will return. The road just won't be as easy as it was for Shinn & the Hornets.

3. The Bobcats being a cellar-dweller until this season.

This is one of the things Cuban argued about last night before the All-Star game, that it's tough for small market clubs to compete. This might change in the future... we'll see.

Fact is, small market or not, the 'Cats are winning and they deserve the support from the city. Forget Shinn... Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson have nothing to do with that mess. They're playing great, the Bobcats as a whole are playing great, and we're marching into the playoffs... lead by one of the greatest coaches in history!

Thank you to Bob and Michael for bringing Larry here! :)

Plus, tickets start at $5 each. Come on...

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