TMJ and Chark were terrible.

[LinvilleGorge]

It definitely looks like a great WR class. Honestly, last year's was a strong class too. People who thought it was a weak class were too fixated on the top of the draft. If you were holding a top 15 picks wanting a WR you didn't like last year's class. The strength of the class was the mid-round talent. We were smart to go WR where we did, we just chose poorly. Same thing with the Bryce pick. Trading up to #1 wasn't an idiotic plan. Bold, yes. But not idiotic given the QB talent on the board. We identified correctly that the cream of the crop would be off the board by #9 and we shot our shot. Then we chose poorly.

This year's WR class has both the mid-round talent and those elite top of the draft prospects. WR should definitely be in the mix at #33. 

[Jmac]

Chark is gone...TMJ could be gone. If Canales thinks he is fixable,, then maybe not. 

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, Jmac said:

Chark is gone...TMJ could be gone. If Canales thinks he is fixable,, then maybe not. 

They are both gone.  

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, Jmac said:

Chark is gone...TMJ could be gone. If Canales thinks he is fixable,, then maybe not. 

Chark should be gone. He's just a bad pairing with Bryce. His biggest strength is Bryce's biggest weakness.

I'm ready to throw in the towel on TMJ.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Chark should be gone. He's just a bad pairing with Bryce. His biggest strength is Bryce's biggest weakness.

I'm ready to throw in the towel on TMJ.

Chark essentially had a one year contract.  Even if he had a pro bowl season, he would likely be gone.  

[LinvilleGorge]

45 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Chark essentially had a one year contract.  Even if he had a pro bowl season, he would likely be gone.  

Given our overall WR situation, I doubt that 

[Davidson Deac II]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Given our overall WR situation, I doubt that 

He is a free agent.  If he had a good season, we would still suck and he wouldn't be coming back here.  

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

He is a free agent.  If he had a good season, we would still suck and he wouldn't be coming back here.  

If he had a Pro Bowl type of season we probably wouldn't have sucked and we'd be re-signing him.

[RumHam]

On 2/1/2024 at 7:44 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

It's pretty wild how terrible this franchise has been at drafting WRs.

By far the best WR in franchise history was a mid-round pick drafted in large part for his abilities as a returner. 

You can argue Moose. Saw a video on Benjamin and he was great and really just never recovered from that injury. DJ was solid, but still dropped too many balls imo. always bring back bersin?

[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, RumHam said:

You can argue Moose. Saw a video on Benjamin and he was great and really just never recovered from that injury. DJ was solid, but still dropped too many balls imo. always bring back bersin?

Moose was very good. DJ was very good. But when you're left with just a handful of good picks at a position where you routinely carry 4+ players on your roster that's overall terrible.

[4Corners]

TMJ is not an NFL player. Just a dude. 

[45catfan]

TMJ still has a year on his rookie deal.  He's cheap depth if nothing else, like WR5 or WR6.   He can walk next offseason.

[LinvilleGorge]

16 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

TMJ still has a year on his rookie deal.  He's cheap depth if nothing else, like WR5 or WR6.   He can walk next offseason.

If you're wanting to instill a new culture of toughness and accountability he's probably gotta go. Not like you'd be losing much. He could easily be replaced by a late round pick or someone off the FA scrap heap after roster cut downs.

[45catfan]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you're wanting to instill a new culture of toughness and accountability he's probably gotta go. Not like you'd be losing much. He could easily be replaced by a late round pick or someone off the FA scrap heap after roster cut downs.

I agree in principle, but there's too many holes on the roster to address every need in one offseason.  If he's a locker room cancer, then cut him, but if he's simply maxed out as a mediocre NFL WR then he can just be depth.