Bryce Young ready to get back to work, grow as a leader

[strato]

Young definitely needs to drill hard for a month at the least. 

[frankw]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I think simple exercises like this “back to basics” will help with his fundamentals. It’s boring but probably needed for Young and this offense in general. 

Oh I agree. Now is the time to address the footwork so we can see some progress in time for training camp. It's almost May time is of the essence. Hopefully Bryce can work whatever that bunny hop thing is out of his habits too. If we see that in the regular season Dave Canales is in trouble.

Edited April 24, 2024 by frankw

[Jackie Lee]

Canales doing his thing

 

[CRA]

35 minutes ago, frankw said:

Oh I agree. Now is the time to address the footwork so we can see some progress in time for training camp. It's almost May time is of the essence. Hopefully Bryce can work whatever that bunny hop thing is out of his habits too. If we see that in the regular season Dave Canales is in trouble.

I doubt you can change that much in a handful of weeks.  Bryce is largely what he is going to be I would think.   Especially, when it comes to play breaking down instincts that got him to the NFL.  

Think you fix Bryce by giving him a good scheme with open playmakers to go to dish to.  He doesn’t have the tools to play in a mess. 

[CPF4LIFE]

His passes still look like soft lobs, which looks okay with no defenders. The actual games are different story.

[jayboogieman]

29 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm ready for training camp with pads on.

Let's get this draft going.

You're in for one long wait and one short one

[Jackie Lee]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

His passes still look like soft lobs, which looks okay with no defenders. The actual games are different story.

They definitely don't jump off the screen as anything special

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

They definitely don't jump off the screen as anything special

BUT HES COOKING!!!!11!!!1!!!!

[frankw]

20 minutes ago, CRA said:

I doubt you can change that much in a handful of weeks.  Bryce is largely what he is going to be I would think.   Especially, when it comes to play breaking down instincts that got him to the NFL.  

Think you fix Bryce by giving him a good scheme with open playmakers to go to dish to.  

The issue is there's 16 games worth of tape on Bryce Young. His bad habits are going to be immediately amplified if he reverts to them. Defenses are waiting for it. Also as another poster above rightly pointed out. He's got to start putting some oomph on these passes. That's also on tape. That's why us fans and his first GM who was fired wanted him to get into the weight room at any capacity but he took time off to do nothing.

Whatever happens it won't be for a lack of trying. I think Dave Canales is the right hire to work with a QB like Bryce. The issue is we have no idea if he is the right hire to fix the overall offense and team or how he will handle that level of responsibility on gamedays with only one year of coordinating. I think this is either going to go really well or it's going to spiral. For all the talk of how bad Reich was and yes he was we really got much worse after he was fired and that's what Canales is inheriting.

All of this is why I say it is important we have another young QB around just in case. Even a UFA.

Also drafting a center for Bryce or whomever.

We just need something anything to build on. Sustaining drives and getting into the end zone more often should be goals 1-3. We were h-o-r-r-e-n-d-o-u-s.

Edited April 24, 2024 by frankw

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

 

All of this is why I say it is important we have another young QB around just in case. Even a UFA.

Also drafting a center for Bryce or whomever.

 

I know Canales did his coach speak thing and said he wanted another vet in the qb room, but after looking at the available FA's I think we should really just grab a day 3 guy in the draft or UFA. Dalton has all the vet experience they need in the meeting room. Honestly after these two days I think Bryce needs some competition to get him out his comfort zone. 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

I know Canales did his coach speak thing and said he wanted another vet in the qb room, but after looking at the available FA's I think we should really just grab a day 3 guy in the draft or UFA. Dalton has all the vet experience they need in the meeting room. Honestly after these two days I think Bryce needs some competition to get him out his comfort zone. 

Absolutely.

No matter how any of us may feel about Bryce Young's viability or if we believe he will turn things around. As Panthers fans who have seen only 2 long term QB's out of several dozen total in the span of nearly 3 decades history unequivocally tells us one thing for certain. Competition is a good thing.

[CRA]

46 minutes ago, frankw said:

The issue is there's 16 games worth of tape on Bryce Young. His bad habits are going to be immediately amplified if he reverts to them. Defenses are waiting for it. Also as another poster above rightly pointed out. He's got to start putting some oomph on these passes. That's also on tape. That's why us fans and his first GM who was fired wanted him to get into the weight room at any capacity but he took time off to do nothing.

Whatever happens it won't be for a lack of trying. I think Dave Canales is the right hire to work with a QB like Bryce. The issue is we have no idea if he is the right hire to fix the overall offense and team or how he will handle that level of responsibility on gamedays with only one year of coordinating. I think this is either going to go really well or it's going to spiral. For all the talk of how bad Reich was and yes he was we really got much worse after he was fired and that's what Canales is inheriting.

All of this is why I say it is important we have another young QB around just in case. Even a UFA.

Also drafting a center for Bryce or whomever.

We just need something anything to build on. Sustaining drives and getting into the end zone more often should be goals 1-3. We were h-o-r-r-e-n-d-o-u-s.

I mean, Bryce’s arm is what it is.   I don’t see us solving anything by telling him he needs to throw with more oomph.  You can’t really coach him into much more of a stronger arm.  You aren’t to solve some of his limitations in traditional pocket either.  

we need a good creative scheme with actual playmakers….and frankly for him to be a dink and dunk PG.  That’s his game.  Accept what you drafted.  Not saying he can’t take a shot here and there but that’s not what he is. 
 

 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, Bryce’s arm is what it is.   I don’t see us solving anything by telling him he needs to throw with more oomph.  You can’t really coach him into much more of a stronger arm 

we need a good creative scheme with actual playmakers….and frankly for him to be a dink and dunk PG.  That’s his game.  Accept what you drafted.  Not saying he can’t take a shot here and there but that’s not what he is. 
 

 

Playmakers like the one we traded for him right?

For some reason I can hear "Hello Darkness My Old Friend" in the background..

So what you're really saying is:

QB first round next year.

[CRA]

35 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I know Canales did his coach speak thing and said he wanted another vet in the qb room, but after looking at the available FA's I think we should really just grab a day 3 guy in the draft or UFA. Dalton has all the vet experience they need in the meeting room. Honestly after these two days I think Bryce needs some competition to get him out his comfort zone. 

Is there any evidence Dalton is actually a good vet to have around young QB?  I mean just because you were a decent starter doesn’t make you an ideal vet mentor. 

I still think we needed to change things up more given what a trainwreck last season was