Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Bryce Young ready to get back to work, grow as a leader


Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

No offense but, I'll take Canales over you 100% of the time.

Young isn't a franchise QB. He just needs to execute his high profile position.  Manage the game plan and do your job.

that sounds like a recipe for a .500 team.  In the NFL a qb has to elevate to become sustained playoff level team.  And good for you buddy for believing in classic coach speak

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He is going to have to play under center some to open up the playbook. Throw in some PA and rollouts and I’m all for it. 

I mean, the overwhelming bulk of a Bryce Young offense is going to need to be in the gun.  He is too small to live much in a traditional pocket and his game just isn't a fit for it. 

they drafted Bryce Young.  It's time they realize it and act accordingly.  Which they failed to do as a rookie.  I mean, Frank at least liked the shotgun but that was it.  Horrific scheme and talent that didn't match where Bryce would go with the ball. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

As I said last week, it doesnt work like that in the NFL.  

The Niners almost pulled it off. You just need an absolutely loaded roster and creative coaching. Definitely not the norm. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

No offense but, I'll take Canales over you 100% of the time.

Young isn't a franchise QB. He just needs to execute his high profile position.  Manage the game plan and do your job.

the Panthers drafted him last year #1 overall and gave up a fortune for him.   Now you got folks talking about him like he is PJ Walker who we plugged out of FA.  

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, CRA said:

For those wanting to know what he has been up to this offseason….

"Literally. Nothing," he replied with a laugh. "I was kind of away from football for the most part, just living every other aspect of my life” 

image.gif.097ca093d1edbb08b0c68d60a1719ac1.gif

 

Oh

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

the Panthers drafted him last year #1 overall and gave up a fortune for him.   Now you got folks talking about him like he is PJ Walker who we plugged out of FA.  

The contortion of our situation and how we got here is pretty funny watching it evolve.  He went from didnt need wrs because he is so good at raising others up around him, anticipation and knowledge of the game to just dont fug up out there. 

Edited by mrcompletely11
  • Pie 2
  • Beer 4
  • The D 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, CRA said:

For those wanting to know what he has been up to this offseason….

"Literally. Nothing," he replied with a laugh. "I was kind of away from football for the most part, just living every other aspect of my life” 

image.gif.097ca093d1edbb08b0c68d60a1719ac1.gif

 

So no attention to footwork all offseason is a concern

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

So no attention to footwork all offseason is a concern

That, is such a huge job - completely changing from the ground up. You can do it and do reps all perfect, but will you trust it in a game or revert to the easy comfortable way you always did it?

That is what has to be proven. It needs to be even more ingrained than the old way to supplant it. And I don’t have faith they can do it, but maybe he can drill some reliability in.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

57 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

that sounds like a recipe for a .500 team.  In the NFL a qb has to elevate to become sustained playoff level team.  And good for you buddy for believing in classic coach speak

So basically Young takes over or he's a bust. He's not Cam Newton and isn't a franchise QB. 

Whether we like it or not Young is QB1 and he's a game manager, at best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I mean, the overwhelming bulk of a Bryce Young offense is going to need to be in the gun.  He is too small to live much in a traditional pocket and his game just isn't a fit for it. 

they drafted Bryce Young.  It's time they realize it and act accordingly.  Which they failed to do as a rookie.  I mean, Frank at least liked the shotgun but that was it.  Horrific scheme and talent that didn't match where Bryce would go with the ball. 

 

Oh yeah the gun is going to be his bread and butter, but we can't eliminated all other formations all together.  I watched us run up run up the middle on 3rd and 1 from the shotgun way too many times last year.  Give me some runs under center, with some PA, rollouts etc to keep defenses off their toes.  

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The Panthers Huddle is usually just propaganda …this one was actually good im feeling good about the Morgan and Canales marriage  the proof is ‘in the pudding’ however  …and have to remember a first time head coach and players who have never played together before but they can’t possibly be worse than last year  the wild card to all this,  too,  is Young  I wish I felt better about him but I don’t  Morgan says he wants ‘dawgs’ not ‘dogs’ I.e. pit bulls vs poodles…I see young as the latter, not the former  Regardless, life is full of surprises…maybe he is a lot more than I see.  I’m not a scout or coach 
    • There are a lot of moving parts to this type of questions and way too many variables to consider to really predict how the outcome would have been any different in 2023 with Dalton starting more than just one game.  But instead of focusing on that Seattle game, another game, and the game following it, are more intriguing to me.   Week 16 vs Green Bay.  Young had the best game of his rookie season.  23/36 (64%) for 312 with 2 TD and no INT.  Thielen (6/94), Chark (6/98) and Tremble (4/59) all had huge plays in the passing game. The running game was a different story.  Hubbard (16/43) and Sanders (3/3) combined for just 46 yards rushing.  Mays was starting at LG and Jensen at RG.  The offensive line was able to protect Young just enough to keep the Panthers in the game until the very end.  But this wasn't because they were playing at a high level, rather the Packers defense played horrible this game. But this horrible defensive effort by the Packers allowed us to see what could be possible if Young had time to process and throw. Fast forward to Week 17 vs Jacksonville.  The offense was shut out and the offensive line allowed 6 sacks and 8 more QH's.   If you go back and watch these games back to back, the line play if very noticeable.  When Young had time in process and move, he was spot on.  When the line collapsed, like most QBs, he was ineffective. When you draft a QB 1st overall in the draft, especially if you trade up to do so, you hope to get a QB that can make plays despite the struggles around him.  Think Newton his rookie year.  Should the Panthers have traded up in the 2023 draft to the 1st overall and should they have drafted Young at that spot? My opinion is no to the first question and no QB in 2023 was worth trading up to take in the top 10.  Neither Stroud, Richardson or Levis would have been worth it.   But none of them would have fared any better than Young either with the Panthers, in my opinion.  Stroud had a good season in Houston but he didn't have a Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson season.  He needed slightly above average talent in one of the worst divisions to make the playoffs. He had the season we were hoping for in Carolina but wasn't going to get with Young or Stroud. Now, I'm not trying to put Young up on a pedestal here.  There are a lot of questions that still surround him and his ability to be QB1 on the Panthers in the future.  But the issue last year wasn't just the play at the QB position.  And really, I don't think the WR issues were as much as people make them out to be.  The real issue on this offense was the line and the running game.  If your line can't get a push to run the ball or pass block to pass the ball, you have no offense.   Start Young. Start Dalton.  Draft Stroud, Richardson or Levis.  Kidnap Mahomes.  Doesn't matter, I think the end result would have been the same. 
    • If there’s any year to be aggressive with it, it’s this one.
×
×
  • Create New...