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Day of Draft Rumors

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MHS831 Grand Master

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I think that's the deal, the Dallas or miamis are sick and tired of the contracts that are 60mill per for a QB that struggle in the playoffs, get a cheaper and better player. (others teams may join)

I'd do the same, there's maybe 4-5 QBs Id give that insane bag to, dak and tua are not there...

Yet they think they deserve it because the market is set.  I think we are in the era where you should draft a QB every 2-3 years if not every year.

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Yet they think they deserve it because the market is set.  I think we are in the era where you should draft a QB every 2-3 years if not every year.

I just would not pay a QB top money unless he's truly top 5. Look at giants, look at what rams did, its the largest problem to have. 

Honestly you have 4 year deal, then the 5th year option, THEN you can tag for 3(I think) years. That's (carry the 2.....add the 1, divide by root of 3)... 8 years of control!!! If its got to the breaking point a massive trade haul too. 

I'd stay drafting one every 5 or so years and not paying the 500 million, Id make Mike brown look like Bernard Arnault....

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4 AZ plan: -Stay at 4 and take MHJ. -Trade back to 6 with NYG or NE (* see 👆 ) and still take MHJ.

5 LAC plan: -Stay at 5 and take OT Alt (or I’m hearing maybe Latham over Alt?). -Move back to 11 and take OT Latham.

 

6 NYG plan: -Plan A: Want to move up to 3 for Maye. Don’t think NE will agree to move, but that’s what I hear NYG wants most. -Plan B: Odunze. I’m told they’re not gonna risk another OBJ/K. Toney situation.

 

7 TEN plan: -Take OT Alt if he’s still available (which could happen if LAC moved out of 5 and a QB was taken there. -Take OT Latham ***ATL at 8 and CHI at 9 could have multiple offers to trade back when they get on the clock, as teams behind them could be jockeying to move up for one of these guys: QB McCarthy, WR Nabers or Odunze, OT Alt or Latham, and TE Bowers.

 

8 ATL plan: -Take the top DEF player in the draft (EDGE Turner or DT Murphy) -Trade back a few spots and still take best available DEF player (EDGE Turner, DT Murphy or CB Arnold)

 

9 CHI plan: -Trade back and recover picks (only four picks this year). -DT Murphy II or best-available WR/EDGE/OT would be priorities after trade down. -Only caveat; CHI could stick at pick No. 9 if Odunze or Nabers falls.

 

10 NYJ plan: -Best available weapon for Aaron (Nabers, Odunze, Bowers) or LOT protector Aaron (insurance in ‘24 and long-term). -Can’t rule out a slight trade up (for a weapon) or a trade down (probably would wind up with OT at that point).

 

11 MIN plan: -Trade up for Maye -Trade up for JJ (but only if it doesn’t require breaking the bank with draft picks!) *I hear there’s a real cost-analysis going on in Minn… is it better to keep picks and land Penix at 11 or to pay a haul to move up for JJ. Very interesting debate! -Stay home at 11 and hope JJ falls. If not, take Penix. Finally, Saints, Rams, Steelers and Eagles are making a LOT of calls about moving up (NO = OT). And teams I’m hearing have interest in potentially moving up for TE Brock Bowers: -IND -JAX

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3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I just would not pay a QB top money unless he's truly top 5. Look at giants, look at what rams did, its the largest problem to have. 

Honestly you have 4 year deal, then the 5th year option, THEN you can tag for 3(I think) years. That's (carry the 2.....add the 1, divide by root of 3)... 8 years of control!!! If its got to the breaking point a massive trade haul too. 

I'd stay drafting one every 5 or so years and not paying the 500 million, Id make Mike brown look like Bernard Arnault....

My rules (if they mattered):  Don't pay a RB a second contract--pay the QB if top 5 (stealing your phrasing), and scout the hell out of the bottom of the draft.  Hurney once said on WFNZ, "I focus on the first round talent and don't get too involved with the later round picks.  Brandon has been doing that--it is good experience for him (paraphrasing)."  I think he was making an excuse as to why his drafts were good in round 1, not so much later.  However, Marty drafted players that gave him an immediate return (RB, LB, etc).  In the only draft where he was on his own without a coach's input was Fox's lame duck year.  2. Clausen, 3. Lafell, Armanti Edwards, 4. Norwood....

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4 AZ plan: -Stay at 4 and take MHJ. -Trade back to 6 with NYG or NE (* see 👆 ) and still take MHJ.

5 LAC plan: -Stay at 5 and take OT Alt (or I’m hearing maybe Latham over Alt?). -Move back to 11 and take OT Latham.

 

6 NYG plan: -Plan A: Want to move up to 3 for Maye. Don’t think NE will agree to move, but that’s what I hear NYG wants most. -Plan B: Odunze. I’m told they’re not gonna risk another OBJ/K. Toney situation.

 

7 TEN plan: -Take OT Alt if he’s still available (which could happen if LAC moved out of 5 and a QB was taken there. -Take OT Latham ***ATL at 8 and CHI at 9 could have multiple offers to trade back when they get on the clock, as teams behind them could be jockeying to move up for one of these guys: QB McCarthy, WR Nabers or Odunze, OT Alt or Latham, and TE Bowers.

 

8 ATL plan: -Take the top DEF player in the draft (EDGE Turner or DT Murphy) -Trade back a few spots and still take best available DEF player (EDGE Turner, DT Murphy or CB Arnold)

 

9 CHI plan: -Trade back and recover picks (only four picks this year). -DT Murphy II or best-available WR/EDGE/OT would be priorities after trade down. -Only caveat; CHI could stick at pick No. 9 if Odunze or Nabers falls.

 

10 NYJ plan: -Best available weapon for Aaron (Nabers, Odunze, Bowers) or LOT protector Aaron (insurance in ‘24 and long-term). -Can’t rule out a slight trade up (for a weapon) or a trade down (probably would wind up with OT at that point).

 

11 MIN plan: -Trade up for Maye -Trade up for JJ (but only if it doesn’t require breaking the bank with draft picks!) *I hear there’s a real cost-analysis going on in Minn… is it better to keep picks and land Penix at 11 or to pay a haul to move up for JJ. Very interesting debate! -Stay home at 11 and hope JJ falls. If not, take Penix. Finally, Saints, Rams, Steelers and Eagles are making a LOT of calls about moving up (NO = OT). And teams I’m hearing have interest in potentially moving up for TE Brock Bowers: -IND -JAX

It feels like besides a bunch of teams reaching for QB's and a few elite receivers, the value doesn't change much from the teens to the late 30's

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Here is a rumor I am starting:  Supposedly, there could be interest in a trade between the two queen cities.  Trey Hendrickson (who could be an interesting fit able to play 3 tech to 7 or 6i tech--best as a 4-3 DE, prolly) and Tee Higgins (WR) have both requested a trade. 

Stay tuned---could be nothing, but it could not be not nothing. 

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