Adam "Can't Stop The" Thielen Appreciation Thread

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, csx said:

13.3 this year. Ahead of many other top receivers.

I'm not sure the ypc has much of anything to do with Thielen though.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/receiving-yards-per-catch

What do you think it has to do with, if not AT?

[csx]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

What do you think it has to do with, if not AT?

The qb, the offense, the role. He doesn't call the plays or throw himself the ball.

Not saying he's some deep threat but to value him based on ypc and not consider how he compares to others provides no context. Or to suggest a WR value is ypc only is weird.

Hint....his ypc is above Tyreek Hill, Lamb, DeVonta Smith, Higgins, Dell.

His ypc is back up to levels he had before Justin Jefferson was drafted changing his role or BY rookie season.

Edited January 1 by csx

[Mage]

6 hours ago, csx said:

The qb, the offense, the role. 

He averaged 10 his last 2 years in Minnesota.  It is exactly representative of the WR he is currently.

6 hours ago, csx said:

Or to suggest a WR value is ypc only is weird.

Nobody is saying that.  But the guy I responded to tried suggesting Thielen was as explosive as Evans because of a one-game sample.  And my response was that over a much larger sample, we see the kind of player Thielen is.  And that is a possession receiver who gets relatively short gains.

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Hint....his ypc is above Tyreek Hill, Lamb, DeVonta Smith, Higgins, Dell

Again, we're comparing small sample sizes to large sample sizes.  Thielen has 54 targets this year.  Lamb has 152.  Smith has 89.  Higgins has 104.  Hill has 120.  Thielen almost certainly would not be maintaining a 13.3 YPC average if he was at 100+ targets, unless we're going to completely ignore the seasons before.

But again, to clarify, nobody is suggesting YPC is the be all, end all.  Thielen is a fine receiver.  But he's not being "held back".  

Edited January 1 by Mage

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