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11 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Am I the only one that doesn’t like the trade anymore?  The team has a losing record with them on the team.  They just don’t fit what we do. 

I dont think it's a Miko or Hall problem, its a Rods system problem....

 

And one of my other big gripes is i know how much rod loves to roll his four lines equally I WANT OUR HIGH END TALENT TO PLAY AT LEAST 22 MINUTES A GAME guys like Miko Svechnikov Aho getting 17.5 a game is criminal 

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24 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

I dont think it's a Miko or Hall problem, its a Rods system problem....

 

And one of my other big gripes is i know how much rod loves to roll his four lines equally I WANT OUR HIGH END TALENT TO PLAY AT LEAST 22 MINUTES A GAME guys like Miko Svechnikov Aho getting 17.5 a game is criminal 

I’m all of over Twitter and Reddit(gross) and everyone is angry at Rod. I can’t think of the last time the whole fanbase was this pissed at our coach.  Nothing is working. Nothing. Good players. Can’t score. Can’t defend. Nothing. 

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https://athlonsports.com/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/trade-mikko-rantanen-possible-before-deadline-report

The Carolina Hurricanes could face another difficult trade deadline decision if they are unable to sign Mikko Rantanen to a contract extension before March 7 with his current deal expiring on July 1.

According to Sportsnet insider Nick Kypreos, discussing the possibility on his updated "Trade Board 3.0," the Hurricanes cannot afford a repeat of last season's events.

The Hurricanes traded for Jake Guentzel at the deadline only to lose him in free agency three months later.

"Although Mikko Rantanen was dealt to the Carolina Hurricanes, I hear it's not a given that he won't be traded again if Carolina can’t get him signed to a long-term deal," Kypreos wrote. "It appears Carolina is no closer to signing him than Colorado was."

Rantanen, 28, is in the final year of a six-year, $55.5 million contract and could be seeking a deal in the range of $14 million per year—comparable to Leon Draisaitl’s extension with the Edmonton Oilers.

“Carolina can’t really afford to give up Martin Necas and two draft picks for another guy who walks to UFA, after trading for Jake Guentzel only to have him leave last year,” Kypreos wrote, referencing the package traded in exchange for Rantanen. “(Hurricanes owner) Tom Dundon doesn’t want to get burned that way again, so he’s basically got a month to sign him. 

"If that doesn’t happen by March 7, look for potential Mikko Rantanen fireworks to start up all over again.”

The Hurricanes have the advantage of offering an eight-year deal to Rantanen as he's already part of the organization, whereas other teams could only go as high as seven in free agency.

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman speculated on Monday's episode of the "32 Thoughts" podcast that Carolina may offer Rantanen a contract worth over $100 million, with an annual cap hit close to $13 million.

"This is my theory: they're going to offer him more than that on eight years," Friedman said. "Not more than $14 million (per year), but more than $98 million (overall). They're going to offer him maybe $100 million--somewhere around there--but they're going to beat $98 million.

"My guess is they try to keep the AAV (average annual value) around $13 million, maybe a bit less."

Carolina acquired Rantanen from the Colorado Avalanche in a three-team trade that also brought in Taylor Hall. Since joining Carolina, Rantanen has scored just two points in six games while posting 66 points in 55 total games this season.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

https://athlonsports.com/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/trade-mikko-rantanen-possible-before-deadline-report

The Carolina Hurricanes could face another difficult trade deadline decision if they are unable to sign Mikko Rantanen to a contract extension before March 7 with his current deal expiring on July 1.

According to Sportsnet insider Nick Kypreos, discussing the possibility on his updated "Trade Board 3.0," the Hurricanes cannot afford a repeat of last season's events.

The Hurricanes traded for Jake Guentzel at the deadline only to lose him in free agency three months later.

"Although Mikko Rantanen was dealt to the Carolina Hurricanes, I hear it's not a given that he won't be traded again if Carolina can’t get him signed to a long-term deal," Kypreos wrote. "It appears Carolina is no closer to signing him than Colorado was."

Rantanen, 28, is in the final year of a six-year, $55.5 million contract and could be seeking a deal in the range of $14 million per year—comparable to Leon Draisaitl’s extension with the Edmonton Oilers.

“Carolina can’t really afford to give up Martin Necas and two draft picks for another guy who walks to UFA, after trading for Jake Guentzel only to have him leave last year,” Kypreos wrote, referencing the package traded in exchange for Rantanen. “(Hurricanes owner) Tom Dundon doesn’t want to get burned that way again, so he’s basically got a month to sign him. 

"If that doesn’t happen by March 7, look for potential Mikko Rantanen fireworks to start up all over again.”

The Hurricanes have the advantage of offering an eight-year deal to Rantanen as he's already part of the organization, whereas other teams could only go as high as seven in free agency.

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman speculated on Monday's episode of the "32 Thoughts" podcast that Carolina may offer Rantanen a contract worth over $100 million, with an annual cap hit close to $13 million.

"This is my theory: they're going to offer him more than that on eight years," Friedman said. "Not more than $14 million (per year), but more than $98 million (overall). They're going to offer him maybe $100 million--somewhere around there--but they're going to beat $98 million.

"My guess is they try to keep the AAV (average annual value) around $13 million, maybe a bit less."

Carolina acquired Rantanen from the Colorado Avalanche in a three-team trade that also brought in Taylor Hall. Since joining Carolina, Rantanen has scored just two points in six games while posting 66 points in 55 total games this season.

 

 

What a mess. 

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3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Some of this could be true. Some could be BS.  I would say if he continues to struggle for the next 5 games he could get dealt. Which would be a blunder of all blunders.  

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31 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

 

Some of this could be true. Some could be BS.  I would say if he continues to struggle for the next 5 games he could get dealt. Which would be a blunder of all blunders.  

There is no path to trading him, IMO.

If we don't resign him it would be such an insane blunder.

If we DON'T resign him, we better go hard AF after an elite goalie. 

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1 hour ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

 

Some of this could be true. Some could be BS.  I would say if he continues to struggle for the next 5 games he could get dealt. Which would be a blunder of all blunders.  

Let's hope Tulsky did due diligence on this, lots of things are said in negotiations and a lot of it is just posturing. I fully expect him to sign with the Canes or it will be the blunder of all time.

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1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

Im going to withhold judgment on this trade, but really when has a superstar trade ever worked out for any Carolina team? It usually ends up as a clusterfug.

I was thinking about this more and the only one I can think of that worked out was Kevin Greene. I thought Olsen at first, but he wasnt a superstar before coming here.

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