HOF Today Article...

[Lilsmitty09]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81871a64&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

from nfl.com

is it just me or is kirwin becoming more stupider and stupider?

at the bottom, where in the hell is beason?

[CatMan72]

You're expecting a national sports media guy to acknowledge anyone on the Panthers besides Steve Smith, Julius Peppers and Jake Delhomme?

[Delhommey]

I fail to see the problem...

[Lilsmitty09]

You're expecting a national sports media guy to acknowledge anyone on the Panthers besides Steve Smith, Julius Peppers and Jake Delhomme?

well we can cross out peppers and delhomme. im talking about beason..

[DaveThePanther2008]

Big Ben was the starting QB for the Pittsburgh Steelers when they beat the Eagles but he was by far stellar. His QB rating that game was like 67 if I remember correctly.

Every sports channel has been all over Willis's jock since the two came into the league. I don't see how they can leave Beason off if they are including Willis.

Comparing stats Willis's numbers are greater but lets not forget that the 49ers are 20-28 since Willis Arrival compared to the Panthers 27-21 record. Which would put Willis on the field more than Beason.

Both playing all 48 games since their arrival in the league.

Player______ PW_ JB

Total Tackles 467 420

Solo_Tackles 358 328

Asst_Tackles 109 92

Total___Sacks 9 3

Pass__ Defend 23 21

Pass _Intrcptd 4 7

Returned _TDs 2 0

Returnd_ YDs 119 98

Forced_ Fmbls 6 1

The only glaring difference is forced Fumbles and Sacks

[panthers55]

reggie white, sam mills, kevin greene. a few former panthers. i didnt see any of these guys. reggie white is considered the best pass rusher ever.

maybe steve smith has an outside chance if he gets the help he needs in edwards and lafell. hopefully things will pan out for him if he has some great seasons left.

if julius peppers has 4 or more years of consistant 10+ sack seasons, he will have an outside shot.

Reggie White is already in the HOF. Mills and Greene were great players but only so many of an era get included.

Peppers might have a chance but hasn't put up the big numbers like a Bruce Smith did for example. Smith played in 279 games and had 200 sacks. Peppers by comparison has played in 130 games and has 81 sacks.

Smith would have to put up probowl numbers for 5 or 6 more years to be included. HOF status requires great numbers and a long career for most players.

As for Beason, Kirwin included one guy at several positions. Doesn't mean Beason won't get there simply that only so many are included every year. Lots of great players never make it because someone else's star shined a little brighter than theirs did.

[Cyberjag]

I have no problem with it. If the Panthers want to be included with the big market teams in these discussions, they just need to win a couple of Super Bowls. Then you'll see them thought of in lists like this.

[Delhommey]

You'll see them thought of in lists like this when they have players with HOF #'s.

[Ricky Spanish]

in the event that I ever become famous and or a HOF voter, i will petition till the day i die that steve smith belongs in the hall of fame. the dude made Jake Delhomme look like a competent QB throughout an 8(?) year span. he should not be punished because he has been double covered his entire career because the panthers won't give him any help, or a QB that can throw to more than one target.

[SorthNarolina]

Beason is probably going to forever live in Willis's shadow. Thank god they don't play out of the same base defense or he would probably be even further ignored.

[Swarly]

Lmfao at Brandon Marshall being on that list when they left out Fitzgerald.

Just lol, lol, lol.

Also as for Beason being in Willis' shadow: that's not something to get upset about. Willis is arguably the best defensive player in the league. Willis/Beason are the Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu of ILB's.