Why I hope Hurney Stays

[Jangler]

irregardless, I ain't gonna stop usin' it.

[Pimpdaddy]

Goddamnit, PLEASE stop saying irregardless!!!!! That is like 6th grade English.

***, I didnt know that...

Usage: Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

[Urrymonster]

yeah sure after 5-6 trys he finally got it and it was just a coincidence we got Gregory at that same time

Sooooo, who hired Gregory...?

[Snake]

I think he is a good GM for Tue fact he gets most rookies into camp. John Beason was the only hold out in a long time and it was because his agent was asking too much. Also players want to come to Carolina be cause of his negotiation skills.

[KillerKat]

Sooooo, who hired Gregory...?

thanks for being the second person to bring up an irrelevant subject. We're talking about our drafts. Not who hired who.

[Peppers90 NC]

thanks for being the second person to bring up an irrelevant subject. We're talking about our drafts. Not who hired who.

the thread is about Hurney and his performance. not really irrelevant

[j2sgam]

Regardless of the relevancy to this thread's direction of derailment, this thread is one person's reason for liking the GM. Relevant or irrelevant, the irreverence of accusations of irrelevancy are outrageous. That is all, carry on...

[Baschski]

thanks for being the second person to bring up an irrelevant subject. We're talking about our drafts. Not who hired who.

I don't think it's irrelavent. We're talking about reasons whether or not Hurney should stay. You are trying to discredit him by saying he doesn't deserve credit for our good drafting, that that's attributable to Gregory. But if that is true, then Hurney deserves some credit for recognizing that our drafting wasn't great and hiring a guy who would improve it--not to mention some of the coaching hires we've had in the past few years that have turned out really well. One way or the other, you can't take away all of Hurney's credit.

[Lumps]

Instead of comparing Hurney to your ideals and judging him off nothing really except opinions and assumptions (such as whose made the ultimate decisions/hiring etc.). The only accurate way to do this would be to compare him to all other GMs in the NFL, and from this perspective, he isn't all that bad.

[KillerKat]

I don't think it's irrelavent. We're talking about reasons whether or not Hurney should stay.You are trying to discredit him by saying he doesn't deserve credit for our good drafting, that that's attributable to Gregory. But if that is true, then Hurney deserves some credit for recognizing that our drafting wasn't great and hiring a guy who would improve it--not to mention some of the coaching hires we've had in the past few years that have turned out really well. One way or the other, you can't take away all of Hurney's credit.

The subject was the reason why Hurney should stay was because of drafting. That was the subject. Not who hired who. Gregory has proved Hurney can't draft well without him. I could give two shits how he was hired. The point is Hurney doesn't draft well, which drafting was the reason why the OP wanted him to stay.

[MaineManPanther]

The subject was the reason why Hurney should stay was because of drafting. That was the subject. Not who hired who. Gregory has proved Hurney can't draft well without him. I could give two shits how he was hired. The point is Hurney doesn't draft well, which drafting was the reason why the OP wanted him to stay.

If the reason were drafting good now is because of the current head scout, then shouldnt the reason we drafted bad in the past, be blamed mostly on the then head scout, Sofli instead of Hurney?

[Raskle]

Outside of the Jake fiasco deal and the franchise on Pep, Hurney has had a pretty good track record of closing good deals and restructuring when it's been necessary. That, to me, is a sign of a good GM. If he has hired a competent staff in the front office, made some nice lower coaching staff acquisitions, and kept things running fairly smoothly, then he's done a bang-up job imo.

Hurney could be turning into one of the greats, but I feel it's still too early to tell. If we can look back and say he built a hell of a dynasty here, I seriously doubt anyone would complain, would they?

[Baschski]

The subject was the reason why Hurney should stay was because of drafting. That was the subject. Not who hired who. Gregory has proved Hurney can't draft well without him. I could give two shits how he was hired. The point is Hurney doesn't draft well, which drafting was the reason why the OP wanted him to stay.

How can you attribute the current drafting to the Director of College Scouting and not the past drafting? If Gregory receives credit for our good drafts the past few seasons, then the previous Director should receive the blame for the bad drafts, shouldn't he?

[cookinbrak]

How can you attribute the current drafting to the Director of College Scouting and not the past drafting? If Gregory receives credit for our good drafts the past few seasons, then the previous Director should receive the blame for the bad drafts, shouldn't he?

Yes. So if you go back to the OP, you can agree with those arguing the point.