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Panthers Prospect Visits/Meetings (Final Update-4/22)


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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I would stay away from Shedeur Sanders for this reason.  I was equally concerned about Lamelo Ball, but he is injured too much for his father to complain.

To be fair Lavar disappeared once he got them to their paydays. I wouldn't be worried about it with Shedeur. I think he'll be qb1 from this draft and Milroe qb2 once they've all been in the league. Cam ward and Dart will bust 

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3 hours ago, toldozer said:

To be fair Lavar disappeared once he got them to their paydays. I wouldn't be worried about it with Shedeur. I think he'll be qb1 from this draft and Milroe qb2 once they've all been in the league. Cam ward and Dart will bust 

I agree--I was just afraid of Ball for that reason. 

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20 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I generally think this applies to most prospects. Hence why you hear so many wild variations in valuation. 

Consider the reporter who said his survey of some scouts/FO personnel had Warren anywhere from top 10 to the #4 overall TE prospect.

This is 100% an eye of the beholder draft. I suspect this one is going to have a wild amount of true busts and also some superstar guys that go late 1st to 3rd round.

More than usual, I mean.

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9 hours ago, toldozer said:

To be fair Lavar disappeared once he got them to their paydays. I wouldn't be worried about it with Shedeur. I think he'll be qb1 from this draft and Milroe qb2 once they've all been in the league. Cam ward and Dart will bust 

The Sanders concerns are likely to end up making many people look foolish. Although Shedeur has a hard physical ceiling almost across the board, he is probably the most prepared QB to make the NFL transition since Andrew Luck. I would argue he is MORE prepared than Luck.

I do disagree about Milroe. I think it's unlikely he is ever given the opportunity to fully develop, as he is largely more on the Anthony Richardson end of the scale. 

Ward is an interesting one. He is a true gunslinger and not many of those guys have panned out in the last decade.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

The Sanders concerns are likely to end up making many people look foolish. Although Shedeur has a hard physical ceiling almost across the board, he is probably the most prepared QB to make the NFL transition since Andrew Luck. I would argue he is MORE prepared than Luck.

I do disagree about Milroe. I think it's unlikely he is ever given the opportunity to fully develop, as he is largely more on the Anthony Richardson end of the scale. 

Ward is an interesting one. He is a true gunslinger and not many of those guys have panned out in the last decade.

Sanders has the physical ability to make the plays in the NFL.  I just feel like he's gonna get killed if he takes sacks like he did in college.  You've got to get the ball out in the NFL.  Even if it's just throwing it out of bounds.

Milroe is just way too raw.  I really doubt he has success in the NFL outside of a short run in a meme offense.

Ward will be a turnover machine.

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14 hours ago, toldozer said:

To be fair Lavar disappeared once he got them to their paydays. I wouldn't be worried about it with Shedeur. I think he'll be qb1 from this draft and Milroe qb2 once they've all been in the league. Cam ward and Dart will bust 

Man folks right on this site said Deion was gonna follow his son to the nfl and have a big impact on his draft stock with his interference and yet we have seen no such thing. He just signed an extension to stay in Colorado for the foreseeable future. The only thing we have seen is so called experts try to tank shedeurs stock with false accusations and rumors and deion just had to step in and shut it down. This why you have to stop listening to what certain people say. Too much hate and emotion in most opinions. 

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Just watched Sanders at his Buffalo showcase (pro day to mortals).  He had a dollar sign on the back of his shirt.  I am old school, and that would bother me if I were a GM--he is destined to be a mediocre QB on many boards, so why would you make a team think $$$ is your motivation?  He is already a millionaire.  His dad is a millionaire. We get it, but maybe a football on your shirt would have been more appropriate.  I am sure someone will say "But that is his symbol or trademark."  I don't know that it is, but if so, he chose it.  His towel on the field had a $ too--in college, when most of your team is not making bank.  I just smell entitlement.  Talk me out of it.

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