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Tershawn Wharton to sign with Panthers

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4 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

So you are benching a player with 15million salary??

That's all-pro money he is right around Vita Vea and Ed Oliver!!

You can continue to defend this, but this is clear massive overpay. 

You didn't my first question, try to answer this one- Did you know tershawn wharton before Panthers signed him?

You are also aware of measurables- Compare to either arob or dbrown, he's about 4 inches shorter and around 50 LBs lighter.

This was a panic signing after Milton left them at the altar. 

 

The only saving grace is Brandt Tilis must have stood up on the table and believed he will be a future all-pro. 

Keep on eye on this.

Panthers will have the most expensive backup DL in the NFL.

It was an overpay, but he and Milton Williams had similar years on similar snap counts. Ideally we would’ve held out for the draft as there are a lot of those 5tech guys this year. But it’s not a rookie position. One injury away from trotting Nick Thurman back out there even with a draft pick. Quality pass rush from the 5 comes with a price. Yes it was steep, but he gives you more pass rush than a lot of guys at that spot. 

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15 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

It was an overpay, but he and Milton Williams had similar years on similar snap counts. Ideally we would’ve held out for the draft as there are a lot of those 5tech guys this year. But it’s not a rookie position. One injury away from trotting Nick Thurman back out there even with a draft pick. Quality pass rush from the 5 comes with a price. Yes it was steep, but he gives you more pass rush than a lot of guys at that spot. 

 

Truth be told, form afar stats-wise he does seem on miltons level and maybe better against the run.

He's small, there's not other way to said it, others can claim hes not....but how is this guy a replacement for Dbrown or Arob?? He is not and was given all-pro money. 

I have gogglefu him and will report the good- Kyle Long said he was the hardest guy to block 1 vs 1.

He can eat and RIP to teppers million once he orders this-

 

He's got "juice" aka energy, he makes everyone rise theirs.

 

I hate to end on a low note- he torn a ACL in 2022

 

He's got to wreck and win games given his money...... Brandt Tilis has insight with the 5 years he's been watching. 

The Nerd is on watch now.....

 

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14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Truth be told, form afar stats-wise he does seem on miltons level and maybe better against the run.

He's small, there's not other way to said it, others can claim hes not....but how is this guy a replacement for Dbrown or Arob?? He is not and was given all-pro money. 

I have gogglefu him and will report the good- Kyle Long said he was the hardest guy to block 1 vs 1.

He can eat and RIP to teppers million once he orders this-

 

He's got "juice" aka energy, he makes everyone rise theirs.

 

I hate to end on a low note- he torn a ACL in 2022

 

He's got to wreck and win games given his money...... Brandt Tilis has insight with the 5 years he's been watching. 

The Nerd is on watch now.....

 

Panthers exec Brandt Tilis won 3 rings in KC. He sees a Super Bowl path for Panthers - The Athletic

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On 3/11/2025 at 7:23 PM, Basbear said:

 

Truth be told, form afar stats-wise he does seem on miltons level and maybe better against the run.

He's small, there's not other way to said it, others can claim hes not....but how is this guy a replacement for Dbrown or Arob?? He is not and was given all-pro money. 

I have gogglefu him and will report the good- Kyle Long said he was the hardest guy to block 1 vs 1.

He can eat and RIP to teppers million once he orders this-

 

He's got "juice" aka energy, he makes everyone rise theirs.

 

I hate to end on a low note- he torn a ACL in 2022

 

He's got to wreck and win games given his money...... Brandt Tilis has insight with the 5 years he's been watching. 

The Nerd is on watch now.....

 

People have to remember we are a 3-4 base now, average weight for them is around 285 not 310+ like a traditional 4-3 DT, he's also a little on the shorter side (most of the best 3 and five techniques in the last 20 years have been) gives them a lower center of gravity.

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1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/aaronwilson_nfl/status/1900562948449239545?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

The contract isn't quite atrocious. At the very least, there's a simple out after year 2. We're basically on the hook for 2 years, $30 million with the option to keep him on for a 3rd year at $15 million if he actually plays up to the contract. And in 2027, $15 million will probably be average starting DT salary. 

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Man, Brandt Tillis is already earning his paycheck.  I love how he structures contracts in length and ability to get out if it turns out the player isn't worth it and we need to cut bait.

Compare Wharton and Browns contracts together vs Milton Williams.  I really wish we could see the breakdown of the what the Panthers offered him cause Milton made bank.

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7 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Man, Brandt Tillis is already earning his paycheck.  I love how he structures contracts in length and ability to get out if it turns out the player isn't worth it and we need to cut bait.

Compare Wharton and Browns contracts together vs Milton Williams.  I really wish we could see the breakdown of the what the Panthers offered him cause Milton made bank.

Honestly the Williams deal is structured pretty well. Less than half of that contract is guaranteed money and they have an out after year 2(same as our deal with Wharton). Wharton's deal is 2/3 guaranteed money. 

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14 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Man, Brandt Tillis is already earning his paycheck.  I love how he structures contracts in length and ability to get out if it turns out the player isn't worth it and we need to cut bait.

Compare Wharton and Browns contracts together vs Milton Williams.  I really wish we could see the breakdown of the what the Panthers offered him cause Milton made bank.

Not trying to be an ass but where are you seeing their deals?

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13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Honestly the Williams deal is structured pretty well. Less than half of that contract is guaranteed money and they have an out after year 2(same as our deal with Wharton). Wharton's deal is 2/3 guaranteed money. 

For sure.  I was more pointing out overall. Wharton has 30 mil gtd vs Miltons 51.  Wharton 3 years vs Miltons 4.  The dead money is you want to get out of the contract after 2 years.

Milton's is well structured too with a crap ton of incentives.  It's just much bigger than what we gave Wharton/Brown.  I'm glad to see we have a ceiling, even players we really want.

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