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Jerry's Budget

koolkatluke

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Did Jerry put the league over his team and fans? Game after game in the preseason it was clear that we had alot of #3 and 4 wr and no number 2. Chance after chance went by where we could have gotten a solid number 2 and Jerry would not let Hurney pull the trigger on a deal. Instead he is trying to be the model for other teams too follow with a lockout looming. Before we blame the coaches and player remeber this is all under Jerry's Budget.

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Jerry has sold us down the river and is proud of it.

The owners, particularly a faction of aggressive, entrepreneurial Goodell confidants (Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, Pat Bowlen, Jerry Richardson) who want a CBA that accounts for the high-risk investments they’ve made on new stadiums and other capital expenditures. For the most part, the owners are unified in their belief that they agreed to a lousy deal when the current CBA was extended in 2006, and that the players currently receive too great a share of their adjusted gross revenues. At last March’s NFL owners meeting in Orlando, Fla., the Carolina Panthers’ Richardson gave a fiery speech in which he exhorted his peers to “take back our league” by forcing a more favorable deal down the throats of the players. This is likely to be accomplished in the form of a lockout, though it’s possible that the owners could opt for a milder approach: negotiating to impasse and imposing terms of their choosing, which might compel the players to strike. DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA’s executive director, is convinced that a lockout is coming, and a majority of his constituents – many of whom are more engaged and informed than is commonly perceived – share this belief.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-laborquestions090810

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Jerry should have fired Fox and made a move. That was the one thing he should have done....I got no problem with the other stuff he is doing. Keeping Fox another year is pointless.

I agree with you even thou I feel Fox is a good coach and will have a job faster then we will have his replacement. This offseason Jerry was more concearn about the CBA then his team.

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Jerry should have fired Fox and made a move. That was the one thing he should have done....I got no problem with the other stuff he is doing. Keeping Fox another year is pointless.

I agree. If you're going to rebuild a system, start up top. I have never heard of a team getting rid of everybody and keeping the same coach there. It makes no sense.

The fact is, it was CHEAPER to keep Fox and that is why Fox is there. It had nothing to do with what is best for the team!!! Jerry is trying to prove a point by looking cheap and it's backfiring because no other owner is going along with his plan other than maybe Jacksonsville! He looks like a fool right now.

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I don't post here a lot, but I read the boards almost every day. Why does everyone keep talking about JR's budget like he's saving money? He's giving away free money to Delhomme... getting nothing in return. I think this strategy (while we may have a rough season this year) is great for the long term. You have to consider a few things...

1. Fox will most likely not be back next year. I get the feeling that this has already been decided and acknowledged between the two parties. The new coach is going to come in and basically have a clean slate and will be able to pick his QB, will have the option of signing or letting our FA's walk... the new coach will need players in his system. I think this would be a very attactive situation for someone like Fraizer or McCoy (just the two names I've heard the most that aren't Cowher). He has studs like Williams and Beason they they can keep. He has three young QB's to choose from. He will have a ton of cap room... which leads me to my next point.

2. I don't really understand all the money aspects of the NFL, but someone (Pat Y, Gantt, I don't remember) said we're going to be $65- $70M under the cap next season. Whenever there is football again... there will be a cap.

I admit, that I don't really understand why we didn't really bring back someone like Moose for a one year deal... but that's honestly the only move I see as questionable. We don't want to bring in a bunch of free agents on long term deals when we have no idea what direction the team will be moving... it's not about lining JR's pockets, it's about keeping under the cap. JR paid out a lot to clean house, but did it in a year when the cuts won't impact the salary cap.

Granted, Richardson is a leader among the owners and wants to set the example. I don't deny that, but you're not going to be a leader among the owners if you put crap on the field every year. You have to be fiscally smart (with both your money and the salary cap) and still manage to put a winning team on the field. Will we make the playoffs this year? Maybe not. I live in Arizona so I have to get raped by Direct TV each year on the Sunday Ticket just to see Panther games. Does it bother me that I paid to watch that crap yesterday? Yes, but I believe we will eventually get it together. I think we have a shot at making the playoffs, we just need a few guys to step up... you know what the good news is though? If those guys don't step up then next year when the new coach comes in then we're not strapped to them by a cap.

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