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Williams Trade Story (The Actual Source)

Mr. Scot

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A blog written by Joe Arrigo, a radio guy, blogger and writer for The Bleacher Report.

http://joeslockerroom.com/On_The_Sidelines.html

Gantt has a link to it on his Twitter page. He's not buying it.

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I have heard that on Tuesday morning Head Coach Mike McCarthy was in a closed door meeting with Thompson, his coordinators and the Packers "brain trust" for almost three hours in a meeting that, at times, was heated. I have no idea what that meeting was about, but I was told that adding a running back was something all sides agreed needed to happen.

I received an email from a source with knowledge of the trade talks, and he said that the Panthers would want a player and a pick (like the Bills want with Lynch). I asked what the Panthers "needs" were and he replied "offensive line, wide receiver, defensive line, linebacker and corner back" but added "if the Packers were to offer a 3rd in 2011 and a conditional pick (a 3 that could go to a 2) in 2012, that could be enough to make it happen."

But there could be a stumbling block. Williams is under contract through the 2010 season at $2.1 million, a relative bargain for a player that 2,635 yards, a career 5.0 yards per carry average and over 25 TD's for the past 2 seasons, but Williams will also become a free agent after the 2010 season. One has to wonder if Thompson were to add Williams would he either try to get him under contract before he were to pull the trigger on a deal or even make a trade for a running back that will want a raise after the season?

This last part is the most specific and was updated yesterday:

As of 8pm pst the Panthers are listening to the Packers and the two sides are still talking players & picks, but the Panthers want to see what happens with their next 2 games (against the Saints and Bears). If they lose both games, the Panthers would be 1-5 and a deal is likely to happen IF the two sides (the Packers & Panthers) can (1) agree on compensation and (2) the Packers can sign Williams to a new deal that would keep him a Packers beyond the 2010 season according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The dialogue is good and going in a very positive direction.

Keep an eye on James Jones during these trade discussions as a possible trade chip. The Panthers need another WR opposite of Steve Smith (and would allow them to move Branden LaFell to the slot when they go 3 wide) and Jones could be a key figure in a potential Williams deal.

NOTHING is eminent regarding Williams or Marshawn Lynch for that matter. The Bills want a starting offensive lineman (a tackle to be specific) and a 2nd round pick for Lynch. That's a steep price to pay for Lynch who has a well documented off the field history. I was told by a source with knowledge of the trade talks that if the Packers were to pay that high of a price for a player it would be for Williams who has no character issues and has a reputation of being a great teammate and a smart football player.

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I asked what the Panthers "needs" were and he replied "offensive line, wide receiver, defensive line, linebacker and corner back"

Right.

And have you told the Panthers FO that their all those positions are their needs?

They'd probably agree with you on the DL, other than that, they feel set with what we got.

I'm so tired of this crap.

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I'm iffy on how seriously to take it.

Part of my reservation is this post from the same page:

After much thought and careful consideration, I have decided to stop posting the O.T.S. Rumors. My reasoning is simple, I don't want to deal with the flack. After 6 years of reporting what I hear from certain sources I have obtained over my 8 years in radio, I feel it is time to stop them. I understand that every time I wrote a rumor (that didn't happen), I knew I would catch heat. I didn't care (for the most part), but after 6 years of answering the same question over and over again, I just am tired of it (to be real honest).

I may, every now and again, post a rumor or two, but for the most part, I want to focus on my writing and radio career. This decision may make a few people upset, but I have to do what I feel, in my heart, is the right thing to do. This is not a decision that I decide to make over night, rather something I have planned for a while now.

I appreciate all the love & respect from the many of you have given me over the past 6 years, and also the "hate" I have also experienced as well. The thing that I always kept in mind ALL THE TIME is we are all Packers fans that want the best for our beloved Packers. We may not see it eye to eye all the time, but we all have one common goal, to see the Packers win numerous Super Bowl titles.

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Great, a f**king blogger.

Also a syndicated writer, if his Bleacher Report profile is true.

Another point of question though. His blog is about the packers, and his bio lists him as born in Milwaukee, but per his Twitter page he's currently located in Southern California.

Speaking of the hypothetical Williams trade, he calls it "the least likely to happen" but the one he thinks would produce the best result.

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Thanks Mr. Scot the picture is getting a lot clearer hate to see him leave but I understand the nature of the business. NOONE can predict the future so only time will tell, damn wish they saw something in goodson it would settle all the tension about breaking up ''THE DOUBLE TROUBLE''

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it's more than likely a rumor, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear the Panthers WERE at least taking calls about DeAngelo. If the trade deadline rolls around and the Panthers still haven't won a game, these trade talks will really get rolling.

Ugh. I really don't want to see Williams walk.

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:lol: I thought Fiz did it.

I hear Fox has been traded to the Giants and Ron Riviera is having lunch with Hurney tomorrow. as well ;)

Riiiight :lol:

Gantt had it about three hours ago. I read it and expected someone would post it here within five minutes. Then I look back hours later and nobody's even referenced it but a newbie came on with a message board rumor.

Guys are slipping on here.

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Jones + a 2nd or 3rd conditional pick would do it. hate on!

What say ye?

I love D-will but if we are not going to sign him long term then I wouldnt mind seeing him be a Packer. I respect the team and the organization.

D-will would make the Packers the best team in the NFC.

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