Potential Head Coaches

[Mr. Scot]

I really do not believe Harbaugh is as hot a commodity as fans want him to be.

He's likely going to have some offers, but I think that wit hall the other coaches out there, he isn't necessarily going to be running away with the #1 to the point where he'll literally decide wherever he wants to go...

Could go either way. We don't really know.

All just educated guesses at this point.

[Cavscout]

It's not like he is the only good coaching prospect out there. We can find another coach.

[Bj-monster56]

It's not like he is the only good coaching prospect out there. We can find another coach.

Thats true there are some more good coaches out there. We shouldnt just lay our hat on Harbaugh. But also there is other coaches but, its seems like i really dont know who would be a good fit for the team. We have so many problems wrong with the team. The defense has also fell off alot the past couple of weeks.

[X-Clown]

I can see the second one as far as he is concerned, but not many coaches are fired because of a missing piece or two.

I can't say that I agree. Brian Billick, Brad Childress, and Wade Phillips are perfect recent examples, Mike Singletary and Norv Turner are likely going to be next and will leave teams with a lot of talent to whoever becomes the new coach.

[mav1234]

I can't say that I agree. Brian Billick, Brad Childress, and Wade Phillips are perfect recent examples, Mike Singletary and Norv Turner are likely going to be next and will leave teams with a lot of talent to whoever becomes the new coach.

Norv Turner may get more time, but he is the closest to "one missing piece" of the remaining coaches that may be fired.

San Fran has close to our overall talent level, just more experience.

[Cavscout]

From PFW :

"Everyone forgets. It was falling apart in Pittsburgh until Russ Grimm and Ken Whisenhunt came aboard," a personnel executive said. "They saved Bill Cowher's job. The Rooney family did not want to lose those guys. ..."Russ is like Andy Reid. He may not quite look the part, but the team that puts him in place is going to have a football coach for a long time."

[Cavscout]

Russ Grimm may not be the young exciting HC choice, and if you go on looks or style points alone...he would not be a candidate for the HC position

But has anyone, other than Mr. Scot actually done research on this guy?

I have and the more I learn about Grimm's accomplishments, learn about his coaching style, learn how he relates to his players, read about how well he develops young talent, and learn his coaching philosophies, the more I think that he would be an excellent choice.

If anyone is only judging him by his look and not his coaching then that is completely unfair. At first I did and thought of him as Fox version 2, but the reality is that Grimm is nothing like Fox.

I challenge all doubters to learn more about the guy before writing him off. I honestly believe that he could actually bring a Superbowl Win to the Panthers.

[Bj-monster56]

From PFW :

This maybe true an there is no doubt that Russ Grimm is a good coach.I still dont think he will get the Job. It will be somebody that is unexpected. Who ever that is we will know in January.Talks should start to pick up in the next upcoming weeks.

[rayzor]

Russ Grimm may not be the young exciting HC choice, and if you go on looks or style points alone...he would not be a candidate for the HC position

But has anyone, other than Mr. Scot actually done research on this guy?

I have and the more I learn about Grimm's accomplishments, learn about his coaching style, learn how he relates to his players, read about how well he develops young talent, and learn his coaching philosophies, the more I think that he would be an excellent choice.

If anyone is only judging him by his look and not his coaching then that is completely unfair. At first I did and thought of him as Fox version 2, but the reality is that Grimm is nothing like Fox.

I challenge all doubters to learn more about the guy before writing him off. I honestly believe that he could actually bring a Superbowl Win to the Panthers.

sorry...i have done a good bit of research on him and i'm not all that impressed and it has nothing to do with how he looks. it has everything to do with football philosophy. he's more of a ball control, run heavy, play it safe kind of guy. sure, he's tough and i don't doubt his ability to get players behind him. the players in pitt really wanted him to take over as HC, but remember how much fox was loved by the players here? that doesn't exactly lead to success on it's own. team cohesion is good, but i want someone who does more than that.

i have seen nothing from him that shows he is aggressive or progressive which is exactly what is needed here in the NFCS. smashmouth is aggressive to a point, but it's more about grinding it out on the ground...and that just isn't the direction the league is going. that doesn't mean we have to abandon our real strengths, which is the run game, but it does mean that we need to have an offense that can not just keep up with the acrobatic air attacks that come from the best teams in the lague, but beat them at it.

grimm just doesn't come across at all like a smart and creative mind that, imo, is needed to get the wins. he'd have to rely heavily on brilliant coordinators that he let run the offense and defense. his tough, but conservative approach to the game just gets me thinking we're talking about john fox all over again.

i don't see him going after progressive coaches to help him and i don't see him having a hands off approach to his coordinators. he is a very simple minded (not meant to be derogatory) individual. not a simpleton...just a bare bones, meat and potatoes guy.

he seems like the opposite extreme of little schotty (overly technical and progressive without any restraint).

thats why i keep going back to harbaugh. he considers the run game to be the foundation, but is very progressive and creative with the passing game and the overall offense. he has all the leadership skills needed. he has the experience as a pro player. he has the brilliant mind. he's just the total package.

[Cavscout]

This should ease your mind about his offense then:

Russ Grimm has said that his offensive philosophy has passing-game roots in the Don Coryell-Joe Gibbs system, blended with a running game in the smash-mouth, Pittsburgh Steelers mold.

Those systems were some of the most exiting passing games in the league. In fact the Rams' "greatest show on turf" was also based on that system as Mike Martz was also an assisitant coach when Grimm was a coach for the Redskins as was Ravens OC Cam Cameron.

[Cavscout]

By the way..., Brian Schottenheimer served four years as quarterbacks coach with the San Diego Chargers under Cameron who was offensive coordinator at the time. He also runs a version of the Coryell offense with the Jets

[Bj-monster56]

I dont think they will base the decision on what offense they run, an defense an all that stuff like that. I think the decision will be made on who has the best opportunity to make Jimmy Clausen or Andrew Luck or who ever will be playing QB in Carolina a Franchise QB.

[rayzor]

This should ease your mind about his offense then:

Russ Grimm has said that his offensive philosophy has passing-game roots in the Don Coryell-Joe Gibbs system, blended with a running game in the smash-mouth, Pittsburgh Steelers mold.

Those systems were some of the most exiting passing games in the league. In fact the Rams' "greatest show on turf" was also based on that system as Mike Martz was also an assisitant coach when Grimm was a coach for the Redskins as was Ravens OC Cam Cameron.

yeah, i see that...from his interview with the bears a few years ago.

Grimm said his offensive philosophy has passing-game roots in the Don Coryell-Joe Gibbs system, blended with a running game in the smash-mouth, Pittsburgh Steelers mold. A league source said Grimm already has mentioned Steelers quarterbacks coach Tom Clements, a star Notre Dame quarterback in the 1970s, as a possible offensive coordinator.

"It'll be a style of offense that I'm familiar with, hopefully be somebody I have worked with or somebody who has run that style or system," Grimm said.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-01-13/news/0401130400_1_offensive-defensive-coordinator-coach-football

i also see this, though...

When asked about his offensive philosophy, Grimm sounded as if he was quoting the Steelers handbook. Build a solid running attack and pass when you want to, not when the defense dictates it.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/0110cards0110.html

i just get the sense that his approach to the passing game is like that of fox's.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not a Grimm basher. I just prefer Harbaugh as the first choice.

It's worth keeping in mind that Dan Henning was from the Coryell-Gibbs school too so your image of Grimm might mirror your thoughts on Henning (on this board, opinions are mixed).

If he happens to be free, I wonder if Grimm would try to bring him back to Charlotte. If so, he'd likely operate under different rules than he did under Fox.