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Reason to be Optimistic about Re-Signing Our Players - Thomas Davis Story/Quote

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Davis returning would immediately make the defense better. Put Beason back in his natural position.

I don't know if Connor would like sitting on the bench. He's had to work hard to prove he can make it in the NFL. Now that he's finally gotten his chance I don't think he'll want to go back. An ideal situation if he's unhappy would be to trade him to a 3-4 team transitioning from a 4-3 for a DT. We would swap two players who would both be better with the other team.

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I've never doubted that we will start spending some money on personnel again as soon as this CBA thing is resolved.

I'd agree.

Gantt's given some indication of that. He believes there are contract offers waiting on Hurney's desk for all the major guys, but they're on hold until the CBA is resolved.

If Bob Kraft turns out to be right, this could be a decent offseason for us.

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If Davis can come back 100% and a new Coach coming in next season we would be set in running a 3-4 defense next year. Connor and Beason in the middle and Anderson and Davis on the edges. Charles Johnson would excel as a DE in a 3-4 scheme. Hardy would need to put on a little more muscle and pounds to get the other DE spot. Brayton would be a great fit as well but he is getting older. Need to draft a big NT or find someone in free agency. Norewood would be a nice backup as an OLB. Everette Brown would be the odd man out. Not sure where he fit in a 3-4 defense. Not big enough as 3-4 DE and no coverage skills as an OLB.

Seriously enough is enough....

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If Davis can come back 100% and a new Coach coming in next season we would be set in running a 3-4 defense next year. Connor and Beason in the middle and Anderson and Davis on the edges. Charles Johnson would excel as a DE in a 3-4 scheme. Hardy would need to put on a little more muscle and pounds to get the other DE spot. Brayton would be a great fit as well but he is getting older. Need to draft a big NT or find someone in free agency. Norewood would be a nice backup as an OLB. Everette Brown would be the odd man out. Not sure where he fit in a 3-4 defense. Not big enough as 3-4 DE and no coverage skills as an OLB.

In one swoop you take away virtually all the best aspects of virtually every player you name.

What makes Beason & Davis top tier LBs? It's their sideline to sideline ability and play making tendencies

What makes Anderson a servicable LB? It's his sideline to sideline athleticism

What makes Hardy an intruiging prospect? His pass rushing ability

You immediately force all our small yet athletic linebackers to take on OGs and Cs to hold the point and prevent the whole OLine getting to the second level. You also force our promising pass rushers in Norwood, Brown and Hardy to be brick walls and offer little play making ability at all.

Yes Connor is more suited to a 3-4 and I can see Charles Johnson working as a 3-4 (despite him being a prototypical 4-3 DE). However Tyler Brayton has already failed miserably in that role and none of our DTs are suited to play the NT.

What you are suggesting is that we replace around 50% of our DL and make 50% of our LB core redundant.

On topic

As Zod said I am not surprised he is delighted that we are talking contracts with him, hopefully numbers have come up because then he is also happy with the numbers we are talking. When it comes to signing players in their prime, then we might take a different stance.

Face it, Davis should be the easiest player to re-sign, he is after all the least in demand.

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If Davis can come back 100% and a new Coach coming in next season we would be set in running a 3-4 defense next year. Connor and Beason in the middle and Anderson and Davis on the edges. Charles Johnson would excel as a DE in a 3-4 scheme. Hardy would need to put on a little more muscle and pounds to get the other DE spot. Brayton would be a great fit as well but he is getting older. Need to draft a big NT or find someone in free agency. Norewood would be a nice backup as an OLB. Everette Brown would be the odd man out. Not sure where he fit in a 3-4 defense. Not big enough as 3-4 DE and no coverage skills as an OLB.

I really try to avoid being disrespectful to guys on here, but do you have any clue as to how a 3-4 defense is run? Davis, Beason, Connor, and Anderson would be the worst LB core for a 3-4 in the history of 3-4's. All of them are built like 4-3 OLB's with the exception of maybe Connor who is a little bit thicker.

You guys that think having 4 pretty good linebackers means a good 3-4 keep cracking me up.

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I really try to avoid being disrespectful to guys on here, but do you have any clue as to how a 3-4 defense is run? Davis, Beason, Connor, and Anderson would be the worst LB core for a 3-4 in the history of 3-4's. All of them are built like 4-3 OLB's with the exception of maybe Connor who is a little bit thicker.

You guys that think having 4 pretty good linebackers means a good 3-4 keep cracking me up.

Agree about Davis and Anderson. Beason and Connor could play in 3-4 on the outside. And who was our MLB when we were playing 3-4 under Capers??? Built has nothing to do with it. It's about heart and instincts.

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Agree about Davis and Anderson. Beason and Connor could play in 3-4 on the outside. And who was our MLB when we were playing 3-4 under Capers??? Built has nothing to do with it. It's about heart and instincts.

Heart and instincts only get you so far...

Playing in the middle in a 3-4 requires you to have excellent core strength and a thick lower body to deal with taking on blocks, height and weight are meaningless. You also need the ability and experience to engage and shed blocks when at the LoS, things that none of our LBs are good or experienced at.

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Heart and instincts only get you so far...

Playing in the middle in a 3-4 requires you to have excellent core strength and a thick lower body to deal with taking on blocks, height and weight are meaningless. You also need the ability and experience to engage and shed blocks when at the LoS, things that none of our LBs are good or experienced at.

Not to mention we need some huge Defensive Linesmen as well. Right now we only have Johnson that can play that position

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