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Matt Moore = MVP!

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Learn football before you type Smith open things up for the rest of the wr. The other wr beat single coverage today without Smith they would have seen tighter coverage. Gettis would have had 2 play against the best CB instead of the 2nd best if Smith didn't play. Smith just being on the field makes def. take notice.

I will agree with that.

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How was it a horrific call?

Moore has said himself that getting benched made him go back look at the tape and see his mistakes and get better.So in the end it was a good call by Fox because it gave Moore a chance to see and correct him problems.

What else do you expect Moore to say? Don't you think having a game like the first game is enough motivation for a QB never want to play like that again?

I feel we would have had at least one more win had Moore played all 6 games and not be so completely out of the playoff race like we are now.

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If Moore had played against Cincy, struggled, and lost, THEN been pulled, he may not have come in this game...

It's worthless to second guess it. Moore says it helped. It looks like it helped. I'd say it helped, but maybe it didn't. Maybe we would have won another game had moore played one more, but we may also just have lost it and this one instead. We should be happy we got a win at all at this point, and hope they can get out there and do it

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If Moore had played against Cincy, struggled, and lost, THEN been pulled, he may not have come in this game...

It's worthless to second guess it. Moore says it helped. It looks like it helped. I'd say it helped, but maybe it didn't. Maybe we would have won another game had moore played one more, but we may also just have lost it and this one instead. We should be happy we got a win at all at this point, and hope they can get out there and do it

But do you honestly think he would have ever had a 0.0 and 6.2 rating halves? Or fumble so many snaps? Or mis-manage the clock? Or be afraid to pass?

He probably would have still gotten some interceptions, and made some dumb decisions, I will give you that but the difference between winning and losing some of those games could have been just slightly better QB play. Not great, or even good, but slightly better.

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What else do you expect Moore to say? Don't you think having a game like the first game is enough motivation for a QB never want to play like that again?

I feel we would have had at least one more win had Moore played all 6 games and not be so completely out of the playoff race like we are now.

Sure its motivation...but him sitting gave him chance to regroup and look at everything he did wrong and try too fix it.He said himself it helped him.

I dont think sitting him was a bad move by fox.

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Or maybe he would have thrown another 4 picks. Or fumbled, because he has done that. Maybe he would have mismanaged the clock, maybe not. Who knows... maybe we would have won, maybe we would have lost, but he was playing VERY bad early in the season and I think the benching helped.

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Or maybe he would have thrown another 4 picks. Or fumbled, because he has done that. Maybe he would have mismanaged the clock, maybe not. Who knows... maybe we would have won, maybe we would have lost, but he was playing VERY bad early in the season and I think the benching helped.

Yes he could have.

Or he could have simply had a couple of bad games with a bad, green team and he just simply went back today to the same QB playing he showed us last year when he won 4-5. Maybe he just needed a bit more time to figure this team out.

Him playing like this isn't exactly a surprise or a new Matt. He's played even better before. Playing like this with THIS team. Now THAT's surprising.

Despite how many want to give credit to the benching, the fact remains, as a starter this game is more like Matt, and the first two games the exception. NOT the other way around.

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Here's the thing, though: His first two games were a situation he had never faced before. This game is much more like the games he has played in before. I think he did better than he ever has before frankly, even if the stats don't show it since he lacked a run game to lean on.

Had we kept doing what we had been doing, there is a good chance we would have had the same result. Maybe we wouldn't have, but that is pure speculation and we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm glad we sat him, and I'm doubly glad he showed up to play today and made us all proud to be Panther fans.

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Here's the thing, though: His first two games were a situation he had never faced before. This game is much more like the games he has played in before. I think he did better than he ever has before frankly, even if the stats don't show it since he lacked a run game to lean on.

Had we kept doing what we had been doing, there is a good chance we would have had the same result. Maybe we wouldn't have, but that is pure speculation and we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm glad we sat him, and I'm doubly glad he showed up to play today and made us all proud to be Panther fans.

Dude, does the fact that out of the 11 games Matt has played as a starter the 2 games he got benched for are the WORST he has EVER played really NOT mean anything to you?

I mean seriously. Why do you continue to deny the guy the credit he deserves in that he already PROVED he was SOLID way before he played his first game this year?

What makes you think Matt would have continued to play so bad considering that's the only time he has played that bad as a starter with the Panthers?

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Because you can't base all your football decisions in one season based on past performances. Sometimes, players regress and need to be benched to get their head straight... I think that is what happened here. That, and it helped that his receivers had time to develop, and they had the bye to really work on the passing game.

The reason I think he would have played just as bad is because he was starting to show a trend through several preseason games and two NFL games at not getting it done. It was not just one game. The offense was miserably bad in the preseason, too... which DOES matter when it continues into the regular season.

There are a million what if scenarios. Ultimately, we have what we have. That's a quarterback who just had a great performance after being benched, and who has credited the benching with helping him.

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