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Something for the Marshall Haters to think about


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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Shutdown-Corner-All-Underrated-Team-The-Def?urn=nfl-290436

Marshall is another Panthers player whose excellence has been hidden behind Carolina's sucktacular season. While there's been a question as to whether battery mate Chris Gamble(notes) should be benched in favor of long-term in favor of Captain Munnerlyn(notes), Marshall soldiers on. Right now, the Panthers rank third in overall efficiency against No. 1 receivers, and first overall against No. 2 wideouts.

I had no idea we were so efficient against receivers. Why would we have benched Gamble if he was ranking 3rd? Also I'm not so sure how good these stats are because I'm pretty sure Marshall and Gamble always stay on their side of the field no matter where the receivers line up.

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Here's what Yahoo said about James Anderson

Anderson may be the most underrated defensive player in pro football. The Panthers are 1-10, but that's because their offense is a hot mess -- it has nothing to do with their defense, which has been rock-solid. Few players at any position play the pass and run as well as a combined skill set -- he's great in the Panthers' frequent zone drops, and he's put a Stop on 39 of the 55 running plays that have come his way.
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A slight upgrade at DT is all that the defense needs.

Offense...that is another story.

We need a QB who can actually throw the ball downfield.

We need an infusion on the OLine...particularly at Guard...but depth is needed.

We need a #2 WR to step up....might have him in Gettis, but he still needs more seasoning.

Most of all, we need a new HC and OC that can actually be creative and move the ball.

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you know what is decieving about all this....

Our offense has turned the ball over the in our opponents red zone the most of all teams in the NFL, which usually results in a running back waltzing into the end zone.

Better yet, is Marshalls ability to get a pass interference call on nearly every play that a ball is thrown his way.

Opposing offenses have three choices when throwing against us:

1. Choose Chris Gambles side and expect him to be 10 yards off of you

2. Throw to the reciever being covered by Munnerlyn, which is usually a reciever that has about 6" on him and makes it impossible for him to swipe a ball down

3. Throw deep down the field at Marshall and have the pass fall incomplete, only because Marshall tackled the reciever 15 yards earlier

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A slight upgrade at DT is all that the defense needs.

Offense...that is another story.

We need a QB who can actually throw the ball downfield.

We need an infusion on the OLine...particularly at Guard...but depth is needed.

We need a #2 WR to step up....might have him in Gettis, but he still needs more seasoning.

Most of all, we need a new HC and OC that can actually be creative and move the ball.

This pretty much sums it up, now we just have to come up with creative ways to talk about it for the next several months.

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Marshall haters are just a bunch of sensationalist drama queens who saw him have two bad games and now judge him entirely based on those two games alone. They completely disregard the fact that he's been a very solid corner for us for years, that he's been a part of a very strong pass defense for years, and that he rarely gives up a big play. No, Marshall isn't a #1 corner nor does he deserve top corner money, but it'd be a big mistake for us to let him go. He's still a strong DB and it's extremely ignorant to make judgments on him based on this joke of a season (Steve Smith has less than 500 yards).

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Marshall haters are just a bunch of sensationalist drama queens who saw him have two bad games and now judge him entirely based on those two games alone. They completely disregard the fact that he's been a very solid corner for us for years, that he's been a part of a very strong pass defense for years, and that he rarely gives up a big play. No, Marshall isn't a #1 corner nor does he deserve top corner money, but it'd be a big mistake for us to let him go. He's still a strong DB and it's extremely ignorant to make judgments on him based on this joke of a season (Steve Smith has less than 500 yards).

Or maybe thats because Martin is becoming a great FS in the making. Marshall was getting beat like a drum last year and Godfrey did not help matters. Marshall has shown us his true colors this year with Martin in position on almost every play and Marshall barking at him when it was him that whiffed on the coverage.

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